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SourceBans Ban URL: Panda Community SourceBans
Name of your Banned Steam Account: Magglet™ trade.tf
Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:57897786
Date and Time of the Ban:
Reason about the Ban: 12-24-17 15:41
Admin that Banned you: Le Captain Pootis
Before I fill in any further. I would like to point out a couple of things about my ban.
First of all the ban reason. "camping " In our rules, it states just straight "no camping" which it is clear as to why. But I looked into the definition of camping further.
I found the definition as to be "A camper is a video gamer who finds a strategic spot within a level and waits there for players, game-controlled enemies or choice items to appear. This strategy is known as camping."
If I look into the timing of the ban. I was told "go down right now" and banned 20 seconds later. I had stated in the chat, that I am finding an alternative entrance which there is, Attempting to find this entrance had not yet been achieved by myself as I am brand new to the map. So my case, for one the admin that banned me, seemed to have been able to read a whole strategy and rule broken within 20 seconds. This for one is an absolute disaster considering camping would be defined as a "strategy" and not something like insulting which can be seen instantly. For him to ban me from it a recording and or at least a prolonged period of time monitoring the situation should have taken place. He banned me with no clear warning at all other "go down right now" I had stated in the chat to me. As you can see here, I attempted to find an alternative route into a camped tight corridor containing multiple players who expected me to enter that route. It was a rational decision to take an alternative route.
I put it to the admin himself. As you know I wanted to see the evidence he held as a clear admin on the panda community, and you know the evidence is nice to clarify where I went wrong as a user. The admin stated "I warned you a second time" and other details of the event. For one I found no evidence of even a clear first warning. Secondly, he expected me to be able to complete a task which I was attempting to do. You cannot expect players to know every entrance of camped areas I was given 1 seconds after I announced my plan to find an alternative route before I was banned. This 1-second isn't even an exaggeration I stated I was attempting to follow the rules and was banned at exactly one second after.
Finally, the admin stated why I was banned he stated the whole thing.
"I saw you standing outside the door, not going in. I saw you jumping up on the barrels when I warned you. You then started taunting and walking the exact opposite way where I warned you a second time" For one if there is a second entrance why would it be exactly the way the sentries are simple logic states if I intend to win a game that I shouldn't enter that corridor. 2 I had no clear warnings or time to react to a situation. Even if I had turned around and went back to the corridor it would have taken me longer than 1 second to return. Regarding the "second warning," I am still yet to find it, but considering he "definitely" did I will keep looking.
Thanks for your time.
Why should you receive an unban?
As stated earlier, I believe the ban for one is complete trash, but 2 shows a level of incompetency within some members of the staff time in vsh. The level of ignorance I received off the admin when contact, he refused to show me evidence and was of little help to me. Other than a rather snide comment saying this was going to be a perm.
Regardless thank you for your time have a great day.
Name of your Banned Steam Account: Magglet™ trade.tf
Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:57897786
Date and Time of the Ban:
Reason about the Ban: 12-24-17 15:41
Admin that Banned you: Le Captain Pootis
Before I fill in any further. I would like to point out a couple of things about my ban.
First of all the ban reason. "camping " In our rules, it states just straight "no camping" which it is clear as to why. But I looked into the definition of camping further.
I found the definition as to be "A camper is a video gamer who finds a strategic spot within a level and waits there for players, game-controlled enemies or choice items to appear. This strategy is known as camping."
If I look into the timing of the ban. I was told "go down right now" and banned 20 seconds later. I had stated in the chat, that I am finding an alternative entrance which there is, Attempting to find this entrance had not yet been achieved by myself as I am brand new to the map. So my case, for one the admin that banned me, seemed to have been able to read a whole strategy and rule broken within 20 seconds. This for one is an absolute disaster considering camping would be defined as a "strategy" and not something like insulting which can be seen instantly. For him to ban me from it a recording and or at least a prolonged period of time monitoring the situation should have taken place. He banned me with no clear warning at all other "go down right now" I had stated in the chat to me. As you can see here, I attempted to find an alternative route into a camped tight corridor containing multiple players who expected me to enter that route. It was a rational decision to take an alternative route.
I put it to the admin himself. As you know I wanted to see the evidence he held as a clear admin on the panda community, and you know the evidence is nice to clarify where I went wrong as a user. The admin stated "I warned you a second time" and other details of the event. For one I found no evidence of even a clear first warning. Secondly, he expected me to be able to complete a task which I was attempting to do. You cannot expect players to know every entrance of camped areas I was given 1 seconds after I announced my plan to find an alternative route before I was banned. This 1-second isn't even an exaggeration I stated I was attempting to follow the rules and was banned at exactly one second after.
Finally, the admin stated why I was banned he stated the whole thing.
"I saw you standing outside the door, not going in. I saw you jumping up on the barrels when I warned you. You then started taunting and walking the exact opposite way where I warned you a second time" For one if there is a second entrance why would it be exactly the way the sentries are simple logic states if I intend to win a game that I shouldn't enter that corridor. 2 I had no clear warnings or time to react to a situation. Even if I had turned around and went back to the corridor it would have taken me longer than 1 second to return. Regarding the "second warning," I am still yet to find it, but considering he "definitely" did I will keep looking.
Thanks for your time.
Why should you receive an unban?
As stated earlier, I believe the ban for one is complete trash, but 2 shows a level of incompetency within some members of the staff time in vsh. The level of ignorance I received off the admin when contact, he refused to show me evidence and was of little help to me. Other than a rather snide comment saying this was going to be a perm.
Regardless thank you for your time have a great day.
