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With Simon Says on panda you still have the right to clear orders and clear repeats. You don't have to follow an order until the warden finishes their statement.

I have another question related to Simon Says. Would any of you consider true or false a trick order minigame?
 
With Simon Says on panda you still have the right to clear orders and clear repeats. You don't have to follow an order until the warden finishes their statement.

I have another question related to Simon Says. Would any of you consider true or false a trick order minigame?
True or false falls under similar rules as trivia, questions must be within what would be considered reasonable for the average player to know the answer to. So no vague questions or anything like that.
 
Tho I don’t believe throwing in another option the poll would be wise given how it would split the vote even further, would a good compromise be it can only be played with 3 or less blues?
 
Though simon says is fun, I don't think it should be allowed to be freely done, I personally think it should be Lr only with a limit of 2-3 times per map, that way it cant be spammed. But since ive tossed my hat into the ring, im interested to see how this turns out
 
Complain lr is bad because of bad wardens -> suggest to ban -> gets turned into LR only instead, so now wardens are FORCED to do a minigame for the duration of the round that was otherwise up to the decision of the warden -> suggest to ban because bad wardens are forced to do the LR.

The issue was a couple bad apples and because now the only people can relate to is when its chosen for LR and warden is forced to do a minigame that’s designed to be played for like 2 mins, now for potentially 9mins long.
 
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Tho I don’t believe throwing in another option the poll would be wise given how it would split the vote even further, would a good compromise be it can only be played with 3 or less blues?
I think this is a respectable position that Kron made us vote on in his previous suggestion. I already provided a simple explanation of how my restriction would prevent spam of the minigame. I figured brevity and simplicity would be a more convincing position to the people who consider Simon Says an enjoyable minigame(I was able to change the votes of a few people from the last suggestion). The reason why I excluded extra restrictions was because I doubted that such restrictions would even be considered tolerable by people who despise Simon Says. Most who vote to remove it think it's entirely inconsistent with our made up rules or just strictly hate the minigame. Then most who vote "LR only" do so simply to appease the crowd who really does like Simon Says.

It really is just public opinion, so the best thing I can do is try to change people opinions. Though I don't think I can convince the Fly Engie's who just wanna play parkour minigames or the rules lawyers who use the rules try to justify their distain. I've already convinced people who actually dislike Simon Says (Alexander and Krook) to vote more honestly.
Hopefully others like PistolPoppin who argues spam as their main issue can be convinced to change their mind either with the spam prevention like I originally proposed, or further restrictions like Calassic and Kron bring up.


Here's another argument trying to convey why Simon Says sucks how it is currently.
Mass trivia isn't LR only. Forcing a warden to do mass trivia is fine, but objectively mass trivia will be better executed by a warden who wants to do it. So mass trivia is better as a non LR minigame by that argument. Same rules apply for true or false and numerous custom minigames.
Logic follows that Simon Says would be better executed as a non LR minigame. Add to this the repeats added with the new plugin only functioning when there is no LR.

Conclusion: Simon Says is at its worst as an LR and there isn't much reason to keep it if it's LR only. (At least from opposition, some of those who like Simon Says would probably want to keep it if possible(not me))


Random additional points: FF minigames are allowed with certain restrictions, why not Simon? It could have a guard limit or be limited to an area like arena or disco. Would these restrictions change your vote?
Pokémon Day, Theatre, Hunger Games, and Hide and Seek are much more braindead LRs to execute for wardens, and simply knowing the rules and commands of the gamemode informs you how to play them. Simon doesn't follow this pattern and I find comparisons that describe them as "equally difficult" to be disingenuous.
 
Declining due to poll results, it did not receive enough votes to pass and the majority of voters are in favour of either restricting or removing it.
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