Declined [JB] Make "Backwards Minigames" deniable and/or LR only. (1 Viewer)

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Just recently, Madact was talking with kry about a certain LR being deniable because heavys couldnt do it.
However it CAN be done, however it seems INCREDIBLY difficult.

Spoiler: Example

(Even kry had to walk/face forward at 1:33 to avoid dying.)
The reasoning behind this while it seems possible, yes.
Its almost an unthinkable task to do for almost all the reds, either because they just dont have enough HP to have multiple attempts or
just didnt practice it multiple times like certain reds.

With the current rules, If something is possible its fine. But this is kinda over the top imo.

I am welcome to any feedback, wether you think this suggestion is complete nonsense or not.

 

[kry]

Here's an updated video which proves it can be completed in one attempt. (Even as the slowest class)

It's purely a matter of skill. I've taken time to learn how to do these LRs so that I can do them.
If others aren't willing to do it they can easily decide not to do the LR and rebel instead, I know you like to do that a lot.
I am completely fine with backwards minigames being restricted to LR only because that is the only time I have done them.

 

[Nergal Nergalton]

I personally believe any LR made with the sole intent of making players frustrated and/or annoyed and make the round just painful rather than more challenging but still enjoyable should be deniable. Not just stuff like Mass Trivia on obscure subjects but stuff like "crouching in Crush Game" and the aforementioned "Obby/Climb backwards".

 

[kry]

I personally believe any LR made with the sole intent of making players frustrated and/or annoyed and make the round just painful rather than more challenging but still enjoyable should be deniable. Not just stuff like Mass Trivia on obscure subjects but stuff like "crouching in Crush Game" and the aforementioned "Obby/Climb backwards".

 

[Zee]

While I can see how this can be spun as an unfair thing to do, lets face it, its a matter of skill level not an unfair advantage eitherway.

Any challenge can be considered frustrating by someone who doesn't know how to do said challenge and fail at it, Doesn't mean restricting it is the right choice, I've done it in the server and seen people do it other than kry.

For me this falls in the same category as jumping from podium to podium in sweeper, an extra challenge to see who's skillful, not something unfair, You can either get better at the game or get better at rebelling if you don't like the challenge.

 

[ItsNotCalassic]

Is this even a popular LR to begin with? I’m not a fan of picking LRs just to frustrate people, but even then every LR is going to frustrate someone. As long as the LR itself is possible on the maps the LR is given, I truly don’t see a problem. I would put this on par with that of crouching all day.

Howevrer.

People that pick LR, so they can effectively do an LR chain (since they are extremely good at something) is cringe and makes people annoyed. Those that do mario kart chain on Jailfort? Extremely annoying. At this point we should suggest rules to prevent LR chains of 3 or more tbh.

 

[scootyman]

this is my bit and kry copied it :{

 

[Musisphaera]

Zee and ItsNotCalassic has said everything that I wanted to say + I'll add the "overkill" comment for this.

We already have a lot of games made LR only/deniable or map specific LR only/deniable. For some it is done with good reasoning, but for some I dare to question it.
We should not make every "infuriating" challenge/mini game LR only/deniable. If it is confirmed to be impossible, then we should question it. However, as shown with the footage, it is not impossible. Just practice it a lot and you'll be golden.

And I'll be honest, I dislike the challenge too (as I do with karts, as I'll never get the secret stuff done right). But I'll simply just rebel those days and let the reds, who want to try/do these challenges, try/do it.

And to answer this question:

Is this even a popular LR to begin with?

In the EU times of the US server, this LR has been done multiple times.

 

[Musisphaera]

Looking back at my comment, I wish I could’ve reworded it better. I however can’t edit my previous comment. I apologise if I sounded harsh.

 

[Bananawastaken]

Declining due to poll results