Are u suggesting that your brain strains at the idea of enforcing 2 very simple rules?
Not saying its invalid but I think you are just against allowing skipping not that admins struggle enforcing rules.
Which is fair enough.
the entire rule of skipping traps that CAN be skipped without bhop already caused and still actively causes so much confusion. if i got a dime for every new player who said "you cant skip that" "!call" "stop skipping traps" that i was completely allowed to skip. there is still an issue with how admins portray some rules which i am pretty sure is still an active problem. (e.g. some admins letting the timebomb go even if no ones delaying and it is just a long map, but some admins cancelling it). which constantly causes confusion. there are much MUCH bigger problems that dont only make new players puzzled, but . this change here is not even remotely close to as tedious as those that still currently exist.I feel like experimenting with rule changes is a bad idea, would cause even MORE confusion after the experiment ends.
Rule either gets added permanently or it doesn't, no experiments.
i'd assume it would be possible to add a freerun button on all maps too, unless if that's more time consumingMight have been better to start off not allowing fake freerun suggestion before this suggestion. Would make this suggestion less 'complex'.
If maps where made to accommodate bhop by stopping players from bypassing traps (cheating death with bhop) then the bhop skipping rule wouldn't need to be here in the first place. But this requires someone who is willing to clear out all deathrun maps of these areas and for Kevin to apply these map changes.
no it isnt. you can lose speed or all momentum because you are forced to not skip a trap sometimes on many maps.Isn't the point of skipping traps to avoid dying to it? So if thats the case skipping traps during a freerun seems kind of pointless and serve no point beyond gotta go fast.
I would think it's possible. Would take a lot of work though and I wouldn't know who would do that.i'd assume it would be possible to add a freerun button on all maps too, unless if that's more time consuming
Yeah lets not stray off topic here, i like the idea but i feel like things are getting a bit out of hand. Lets just focus on the original topic and how it can be balanced out for admins and players.
#22 has been in desperate need of players so giving it a reason to get players would obviously be beneficial. However, it feels very contradictory to allow players to do whatever they want on the 2nd server solely because it isn't as populated, it feels like it goes against the whole idea then and basically just makes the server into an anarchistic hellhole where it's just gonna devolve into rulebreakers' paradise. I'm obviously exaggerating a bit but my point still stands in that it would feel kind of hypocritical to just allow something somewhere else, then why not allow it on the main server?I suggest what Mikey and me had said before about the #22 DR server.
Leaving #9 how it is right now and promoting to those who want to skip that they move over to #22, where it is allowed to skip. I'd say it is completely balanced, admins and other regulars get to not have a fucking aneurysm from all the exceptions to take into account; you and those who want to skip and bhop can do so freely; and we all also get to re-populate the other server.
#22 has been in desperate need of players so giving it a reason to get players would obviously be beneficial. However, it feels very contradictory to allow players to do whatever they want on the 2nd server solely because it isn't as populated, it feels like it goes against the whole idea then and basically just makes the server into an anarchistic hellhole where it's just gonna devolve into rulebreakers' paradise. I'm obviously exaggerating a bit but my point still stands in that it would feel kind of hypocritical to just allow something somewhere else, then why not allow it on the main server?
Perhaps the server could become more of an experimental server if anything, with what Chuck mentioned with experimenting with rules, while a very risky idea, could perhaps be applied to the 2nd Deathrun server. I don't know, kind of just spit-balling here.
Anyway, I am still opposed to the idea of allowing skips through free runs due to the reasons listed prior by An0n and Solar among others. The bhop rule is complicated as it is already and changes have been made back and forth since its constitution all those years ago, so I feel like things would get even more complex if changes like this would be applied.
Honestly, the way i view everything now, i feel bhop as a whole should be removed from 09 and kept to 22, all of these complicated skipping and rushing rules are only there because of bhop. Skipping and other bhop related stuff could just stay on 22 without any skipping rules, I think it'd be a good way to make 22 repopulated for those players who enjoy bhopping and skipping, or just being fast paced in general and have 09 as a pure deathrun server, only issue is that most people come to 09 solely because of the bhopping, other servers don't really have that, so a loss of players could happen (moving to skial or blackwonder etc)