Vecomti
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Name of your Banned Steam Account: Vechristmas : )
Steam ID: STEAM_1:0:96602714
Date and Time of the Ban: Feb 12, 2020, Around 17 CET
Reason about the spray: Offensive I suppose?
Admin that Banned you: Mikey
Why should you receive a unban for the ban / gag / mute: First of all, I would like to refer to the incident of the spray ban.
I was asked repeatedly by Mikey to remove the spray, and everytime he said so I tried to explain there is nothing offensive about the spray. When he stated that it was my last warning; remove it (or maybe change it?), I told him I didn't know how to, and that I'd leave the server so it'd disappear. When I rejoined, every spray on the server was gone for me so I had no clue if it worked or not. I therefore asked and he didn't reply, then shortly after I was spray banned. So from the get-go, I tried to listen (although I didn't think it was an admin telling me to do it, but I'll get to that later), but I suppose there was some misunderstanding? Perhaps he thought I was being defiant and didn't want to remove it, while not hearing what I said on voice chat?
Secondly; I did not know Mikey was an admin. I figured it was a normal person who was offended or something; his name was in red, and he was on RED team, so I didn't see anything telling me "Oh, this guy plays here a lot, he knows the rules/is an admin". In addition: He didn't give any reasons to remove the spray, he didn't talk to me with admin chat as every 2fort admin does when enforcing rules, and he isn't on the 2fort admin list (nor does he play there a lot), so you might understand the situation.
So over to my last point. The rule the spray would've broken is this:
"Both the offensive language and offensive spray rules include pro-war exclamations or expressing a positive attitude towards terrorists, dictators or otherwise controversial figures. Keep that stuff out of the servers; it's a video game, not a place to express your controversial political viewpoints." The part about positive attitude towards dictators/controversial figures.
I understand the 'Not a place to express your controversial political views", but my spray was merely a meme, not a political view. In addition, it did in no way portray Hitler in any positive light or promote what he stands for. It is merely Hitler as a chef.
Spray in question: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv P.S: Last time I appealed I apparently thought I used the Hitler anime eyes spray, as shown here:
That was wrong, however. Still, neither portrays him in a good light, I didn't mean to aggrevate or break rules, I tried to fix it (removing it, but I didn't know how so I re-joined, and after my attempt I tried to ask if it worked).
I can change it to something else entirely if you guys really don't like political dictators in any shape or form (hello @Jose Stalino) and avoid politics entirely, but I wanna use my spray again.
Thanks for reading my appeal for Team Fortress 2, 2fort, and my favourite class is the Spy.
Name of your Banned Steam Account: Vechristmas : )
Steam ID: STEAM_1:0:96602714
Date and Time of the Ban: Feb 12, 2020, Around 17 CET
Reason about the spray: Offensive I suppose?
Admin that Banned you: Mikey
Why should you receive a unban for the ban / gag / mute: First of all, I would like to refer to the incident of the spray ban.
I was asked repeatedly by Mikey to remove the spray, and everytime he said so I tried to explain there is nothing offensive about the spray. When he stated that it was my last warning; remove it (or maybe change it?), I told him I didn't know how to, and that I'd leave the server so it'd disappear. When I rejoined, every spray on the server was gone for me so I had no clue if it worked or not. I therefore asked and he didn't reply, then shortly after I was spray banned. So from the get-go, I tried to listen (although I didn't think it was an admin telling me to do it, but I'll get to that later), but I suppose there was some misunderstanding? Perhaps he thought I was being defiant and didn't want to remove it, while not hearing what I said on voice chat?
Secondly; I did not know Mikey was an admin. I figured it was a normal person who was offended or something; his name was in red, and he was on RED team, so I didn't see anything telling me "Oh, this guy plays here a lot, he knows the rules/is an admin". In addition: He didn't give any reasons to remove the spray, he didn't talk to me with admin chat as every 2fort admin does when enforcing rules, and he isn't on the 2fort admin list (nor does he play there a lot), so you might understand the situation.
So over to my last point. The rule the spray would've broken is this:
"Both the offensive language and offensive spray rules include pro-war exclamations or expressing a positive attitude towards terrorists, dictators or otherwise controversial figures. Keep that stuff out of the servers; it's a video game, not a place to express your controversial political viewpoints." The part about positive attitude towards dictators/controversial figures.
I understand the 'Not a place to express your controversial political views", but my spray was merely a meme, not a political view. In addition, it did in no way portray Hitler in any positive light or promote what he stands for. It is merely Hitler as a chef.
Spray in question: vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv P.S: Last time I appealed I apparently thought I used the Hitler anime eyes spray, as shown here:
That was wrong, however. Still, neither portrays him in a good light, I didn't mean to aggrevate or break rules, I tried to fix it (removing it, but I didn't know how so I re-joined, and after my attempt I tried to ask if it worked).
I can change it to something else entirely if you guys really don't like political dictators in any shape or form (hello @Jose Stalino) and avoid politics entirely, but I wanna use my spray again.
Thanks for reading my appeal for Team Fortress 2, 2fort, and my favourite class is the Spy.
