Accepted Report against code (1 Viewer)

[Ahamkara's Vow]

Steam Name: Code
Steam ID32: STEAM_0:1:78953893
Server: US JB 1
Reason: Ordering another blu to mfk
Context: Order was "Exit the game and AFK Freeze" but he never said "Your mama, Your Daddy, Your bald headed Granny"
after the order so he had us all killed even though the lr never said that orders without that phrase are invalid.
Proof: https://medal.tv/games/tf2/clips/kyqMDtoufApD0Stdw?invite=cr-MSxnNHMsMzE0ODMwODQ3

 

[Code]

Off the bat, the proof provided link is "This clip has expired or no longer exists".

Previously viewed the clip & at the bottom the screen you can clearly see that the LR was "Warden ends orders with "Yo mama, yo daddy, your bald headed granny"
Warden ENDS orders with ______. If the warden doesn't end the orders with _____ its not a order.

You also didn't mention or include the discussion You, Stickson (https://steamcommunity.com/id/MrStickson), and I had following the incident. In which we went over if it was an invalid LR you or anyone else should of said so in the beginning, and If it was a trick order then why don't we ban that type of LR but also making a exemption to Simon Says LR.

Funny enough when I mentioned reporting me on this issue you said "idgaf", then made the report.

If this was a real issue then you should make a post banning adding words or phrases before or after warden orders.

 

[Ahamkara's Vow]

I don't want this to be a back and forth thing. So this will be my only response. I'm currently trying to fix the medal clip not working. I didn't wait till the next morning to make this report. I made the report while we were still in jb_jailfort, because as soon as I made the report, you said "Yharon has his finger on the report trigger". You should have known it was not a valid LR, since you have been a part of the panda servers for the past 7 years it looks like. Those kind of LRs can be done if the warden wants to, but it's not required to do them, but for no reason should that LR have resulted in a simon says order. Nobody knew that was supposed to happen so it was an illegal trick order.

 

[Ahamkara's Vow]

Okay the medal clip should be working now. Here it is again https://medal.tv/games/tf2/clips/kyqMDtoufApD0Stdw?invite=cr-MSxkZ2ksMzE0ODMwODQ3

 

[Code]

"You've been here awhile, you should have known" Rules & regulations have changed over the past 4 years you have been here, let alone my 7. You're an Active Member, you should know that. Multiple people in the clip provided said "You didn't say it", so they knew similar to Simon Says. If this an issue for you, make a post to ban this type of LR.

 

[Madact]

Wanting it to be clear now because I do not want this to be a new trend of accepted LRs.

The lr is invalid due to it breaking trick order rule. Lr cannot break rules. Simon says is the only exception. Can't have variations of it.
They can still do the lr in terms of saying it in the order. Just they still have to follow orders even with or without the ending phase.

What I want to know is if code ordered that blue to MFK or not. With all the screaming I can't tell what the hell is going on. It's probably what lead to stickson opening fire. I hear near the end code saying 'stupid fucks' which makes me think that the warden did intend for this to be a valid lr despite the rule breaking.

If code was tricked to believe this is a valid lr then you might want to explain that. But keep in mind that as warden code you are responsible for the round and the LR you choose to accept. The rule has not changed in the past 4 years. LRs cannot break rules.

Now ofc code didn't kill the reds, it was stickston. You have to include them too.

It doesn't help that the clip is short too. Although context has been given here between code and ahamkara's vow the video evidence would truly show what happened that round.

 

[Code]

I believed that if I or Warden, does NOT say the provided LR words or phrases it is not an order. I did order Stickson to kill the reds who did not follow it.

 

[Madact]

Thank you for clearing that up. I'll let the jailbreak team decide what to do about this.

If there's anything else to disclose about what happened, please post below. Anything else though such as disagreeing etc please do not post.
If anybody has any longer clips that'd be great.

 

[Nergal Nergalton]

After discussion with the admins we've decided to give Code a 360 minute teamban for ordering another BLU to mass kill via an invalid order. Really this whole thing is messy but I hope you can understand the circumstances as to why this will be the punishment given.

Accepted.