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SourceBans Ban URL: https://bans.panda-community.com/index.php?p=commslist&searchText=STEAM_0:0:50589046&Submit
Name of your Banned Steam Account: たなか-さん
Steam ID 32: 101178092
Date and Time of the Ban: 2021-07-25 18:26:19
Reason about the Ban: racist....
Admin that Banned you: @acethedragon
Why should you receive a unban for the ban / gag / mute / teamban:

According to the admin, I was banned for making the following "racist" statements:
- Brazil had 10x as many slaves as the US
- Arabs enslaved 10x as many slaves as Europeans
- British spent billions to attack Arab slave ships
None of these statements are racist, and all of these statements are facts (or exaggerations of facts) that conform to the consensus held by all professional historians.

Brazil had 10x as much slaves as the US
This is the consensus of historians who study the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Here's a project run by Emory university, which is among the top 100 universities in the world: https://slavevoyages.org/voyage/maps . The very first image was the source of my statement.

Arabs enslaved 10x as much slaves as Europeans
Some historians have estimated that many tens of millions of African slaves were enslaved by the Islamic world, however the consensus is that the Arab slave trade was slightly greater than or equal to the trans-Atlantic slave trade. Wikipedia has an introductory article on this topic: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world . I used a different source that is not widely accepted to exaggerate, but my point was that pointing out the trans-Atlantic slave trade while ignoring other cases of slavery is a very Western-centric view to take, and that evils must be pointed out wherever they happen. Slavery is not a Western evil, it is a human evil. This statement is not racist, it is a historical fact.
Here are some more articles that provide evidence for my statement:
https://www.dw.com/en/east-africas-forgotten-slave-trade/a-50126759
https://www.fairplanet.org/dossier/beyond-slavery/forgotten-slavery-the-arab-muslim-slave-trade/

British spent billions to attack Arab slave ships
While I haven't quantified the exact amount the British did spend (I was just guessing), it is a well known fact that global slavery declined in part due to British pressure. The Brits enforced a blockade on all slave shipments in international waters, and this often meant putting British lives and ships at stake to search and arrest ships transferring slaves. Sending ships to patrol international waters isn't cheap, so Britain spent a huge sum of money on it, and that is without even mentioning how much Britain paid to have all slaves set free (they were still paying back the debt in the 21st century). There are articles and books that go much more in depth into this topic that I forgot about, but here are some articles that give a rough overview:
https://www.britannica.com/place/western-Africa/The-abolition-of-slavery
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_Muslim_world#20th-century_suppression_and_prohibition

Getting gagged for replying with facts to another player who routinely makes the chat political is a travesty and inversion of justice. The things I said in my screenshot can only be interpreted as racist if you hold a deeply flawed and contradictory worldview, and the idea that non-Western groups of people are above criticism (due to a Western-centric worldview) is absolutely abhorrent to me. Evil must be criticized wherever it is (such as modern slavery in Africa, Asia and Eastern Europe) and wherever it has happened historically (such as the trans-Atlantic slave trade or the trans-Saharan slave trade). Getting gagged for "racism" for calling out evil and immorality is a disgrace. If you believe my chat was toxic, then gag me for toxicity, not racism. I have and will always continue to be guided by proper morality when replying to political statements made by others in the chat.

The only "racism" I posted was obviously over-the-top satire mocking certain more racist segments of the population. If you look at my chat history (https://hlstats.panda-community.com/hlstats.php?mode=chathistory&player=423198&page=1), it is obvious I was roleplaying as an angry Fox News-watching Joe Biden-hating person. Another racist thing I wrote was:
i want to send all syrians to kingdome come
But this was obviously a response to "Your local phlog pyro" writing:
i would like to send all syrians to syria
(https://hlstats.panda-community.com/hlstats.php?mode=chat&game=tf55&server_id=58&filter=syrians)
He proposed an (in my opinion) inhumane desire to deport more than 3 million Syrians who fled violence in their home country and have built new lives in a new country, and I replied by reducing his statement to absurdity. In fact, Wikipedia has an article describing the form of humor I engaged in: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_ridicule .
 
The part @acethedragon gagged you over is this:

2021-07-25 18:24:16negro.Panda-Community.com #13 | Freak Fortress 2 | Daft Punk Goldvsh_yammoe_rc3

In the English language, negro is a term historically used to denote persons considered to be of Black African heritage. The term can be construed as offensive, inoffensive, or completely neutral, largely depending on the region or country where it is used.

But I see what you did. You put monte first
2021-07-25 18:24:14monte.Panda-Community.com #13 | Freak Fortress 2 | Daft Punk Goldvsh_yammoe_rc3

Montenegro is a country in the Balkans.

You purposely spilt the word into two then acted like you are completely oblivious to the matter. There was no need to spilt this word into two, as it is known to be a controversial word.
When on the internet this isn't just Latvia anymore, this is the entire world. Respecting what is offensive around the world will stop you from getting into trouble. Your mentioning about politics and history of slavery is inappropriate as well.

Both of these fall under rule 2a:

2) Communication rules:

a) Offensive language
You may not use any offensive language, which includes insults; excessive raging; disrespecting admins or other players or provoking them; or any kind of discrimination. Racism is strictly forbidden.

Both the offensive language and offensive spray rules include pro-war exclamations or expressing a positive attitude towards terrorists, dictators or otherwise controversial figures. Keep that stuff out of the servers; it's a video game, not a place to express your controversial political viewpoints.


@Loli Police
 
I've opened this up as I am an agent of chaos! No posting gif memes as I'm guessing that's why it was closed in the first place?

@Tanakh I've sent you a copy paste of what you sent if you want to copy and paste it here.
 
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just change the reason, since I genuinely find it hard to believe that saying "Montenegro" in jest rises to the level of racism
 
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After reading the chat logs and thinking over it, it wasn't particularly racism however it doesn't excuse your comments. Generally it was toxic but still be careful with that sort of speech from now on please.
 
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