Completed Addition/removal of VSH Maps (1 Viewer)

[Matth]

Good day everybody.
I had a preliminary talk with VSH admins and some regulars, and they mostly agreed with this suggestion, so I'm posting this thread with some generic approval already.

Other opinions by VSH regulars are welcome, as always. Please, give your opinion only on these maps, otherwise this thread becomes chaos and it'll get ignored.


NEW MAPS TO ADD ( 5 )

vsh island b1 --> https://gamebanana.com/maps/162511
vsh nale b1e --> https://gamebanana.com/maps/170272
vsh brewery v3 --> https://gamebanana.com/maps/187924
vsh teul --> https://gamebanana.com/maps/187332
ratssaxy --> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gh49o2zvt6gu5ac/arena_ratssaxxy_rework.bsp?dl=0


MAPS TO REMOVE ( 5 )

traincross
stream platform
jungle beach
bianco hills
snow globe



@Kevin
Thanks for your attention.



[Edited after all the feedback below and in pvt]

 

[PNN]

Instead of villa rosa, which IMO is a decent map, remove the map Falkon made. The map is way to big and close to never played.

The rest of the suggestion seems nice to me.

 

[chaz]

Instead of villa rosa, which IMO is a decent map, remove the map Falkon made. The map is way to big and close to never played.

The rest of the suggestion seems nice to me.

Or both :~)

edit: villa rosa is never played too either, except one time last week that I can remember

 

[Matth]

Let me know if you wanna remove both of them or just one.
Villa rosa is better than bianco hills, but IMO I'd remove both of them.


[Edit: Feedback arrived for Villa rosa to be kept]

 

[Abject]

Island is a great map and ratssaxy should have never been removed in the first place.
I have never seen brewery or teul but they look interesting and I'd love to try them out.
I must say I find nale to be an absolutely terrible map, however that's just my opinion.

I'm fine with all the maps suggested to be removed.
I sorta like snowglobe but I probably won't miss it if it's removed.

 

[Gmellow]

I actually like bianco and traincross, but you know, im italian and im not an admin, my opinion should not count xd

But anyways, in a week or 2 i will make my map suggestion, which probably a lot of regular already know about, that should be around 20 new maps (plus other like 5 maps from bisc)

Also yes, villa rosa can go for me and PLEASE remove militaryzone, military area is already the most played map, we dont need 2 of that

Island is a great map and ratssaxy should have never been removed in the first place.
I have never seen brewery or teul but they look interesting and I'd love to try them out.
I must say I find nale to be an absolutely terrible map, however that's just my opinion.

^ This is my opinion on the maps btw


Before seeing this changes I would love to see the map that heather suggested some time ago added to the server

 

[PNN]

@Matth i dont care that much if Villa Rosa gets removed, just wanted to state that Bianco should be gone before said map. You can take the judgement on that.

I might add a few suggestions to new maps myself later today

 

[Matth]

As I said also in pvt to Gmellow, let's focus on these maps before adding other stuff to the discussion, otherwise these changes will never be applied.
We can add/remove other maps in a second moment.
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Of course, for any external suggestion, feel free to PM me and other admins on forums and Steam. Feedback is always welcome.

Meanwhile, I close this since much positive feedback has come already from VSH regulars and admins.

Waiting for @Kevin .

 

[Kevin]

Good day everybody.
I had a preliminary talk with VSH admins and some regulars, and they mostly agreed with this suggestion, so I'm posting this thread with some generic approval already.

Other opinions by VSH regulars are welcome, as always. Please, give your opinion only on these maps, otherwise this thread becomes chaos and it'll get ignored.


NEW MAPS TO ADD ( 5 )

vsh island b1 --> https://gamebanana.com/maps/162511
vsh nale b1e --> https://gamebanana.com/maps/170272
vsh brewery v3 --> https://gamebanana.com/maps/187924
vsh teul --> https://gamebanana.com/maps/187332
ratssaxy --> https://www.dropbox.com/s/gh49o2zvt6gu5ac/arena_ratssaxxy_rework.bsp?dl=0


MAPS TO REMOVE ( 6 )

traincross
stream platform
jungle beach
bianco hills
snow globe
barn night rereworked



@Kevin
Thanks for your attention.



[Edited after all the feedback below and in pvt]

things stated above can be implemented 1:1?

please leave feedback on this then i'll do this next. (implemented for VSH and FF2 servers!)

 

[Matth]

On VSH the 6 maps listed above always lead to an empty server or anyway the number of users decreases a lot.

I don't know if the same happens on FF2 as well, so I'm tagging @Bab @Monster @TekkitFappit @UberCat @Waxel @White Falcon for confirmation.

 

[White Falcon]

Well, I actually agree with Matth, I've seen those maps weeks ago, they do look interesting to play with, maps like Bianco hills and others overrated in my opinion. The only thing i dislike with you is Barnnight rereworked ^^. Maybe keep the normal reworked for vsh and the rereworked one for ff2?

 

[Je Hooft]

My two cents:
- Idc about jungle beach, traincross and snow globe
- stream platform is ok imo, but if it's either this or ratssaxy I choose ratssaxy
- barn night actually attracts a bunch of players because frankly it's fun to play in (albeit terrible balance). Maybe just make a rererework?
- def remove bianco hills. Too large, too bright and a really dumb camping spot for engies that is way too easy to defend

Also remove one of the military maps (military area or military zone) cause they're basically the same map which is weird

 

[Matth]

So @Je Hooft you agree with everything basically. Two things:

• About barnnight, we may remove the rerework now and add the rererework in a second moment. Let's do things step by step.
• About military maps, there has been a lot of discussion between admins and regulars: a half prefers militaryarea and a half prefers militaryzone (not so similar each other).

So the point is: let's start removing those 6 maps. We can discuss and add some map reworking in a second moment. If we open other topics here, this will never get done.

About FF2, @Kevin you may keep the first rework on VSH and the second rerework on FF2.

 

[Waxel]

About FF2, @Kevin you may keep the first rework on VSH and the second rerework on FF2.

Strangely enough we have both versions of barnnight in the map rotation xD nonetheless people enjoy them alot

On VSH the 6 maps listed above always lead to an empty server or anyway the number of users decreases a lot.

For what i saw in the past only bianco hills gave problems, the other maps are fine (Can't remember what map was jungle beach) as they kept the server almost if not full instead.
So yeah i'd suggest removing only Bianco Hills from FF2 if that's possible

 

[Matth]

@Kevin , to sum up:

- For VSH, you can go ahead with adding/removing all the maps listed above;

- For FF2, add the new 5 maps but remove only Bianco Hills.
If they need to remove other maps someday, they will make a new separate thread to discuss it.

 

[Kevin]

@Kevin , to sum up:

- For VSH, you can go ahead with adding/removing all the maps listed above;

- For FF2, add the new 5 maps but remove only Bianco Hills.
If they need to remove other maps someday, they will make a new separate thread to discuss it.

good thanks.

 

[Racer911-1]

@Kevin please dont fuck me up :c

 

[Pilon99]

Agree with matth. Please @Kevin add these maps again, it will certainly help to call the old players back to play. Thanks

 

[Kevin]

regarding the adding process, i would add thus listed maps above aswell for FF2, that alright?

 

[White Falcon]

Yes.