A poorly disorganised ramble of my thoughts on ba_space_jail_v7 (1 Viewer)

[laxlijam]

i do enjoy this map and think its great (my top 5 personally), though it most certainly shows its poor design philosophy when it comes to areas like the Main-cell area for instance.
I'm no good essayist so I'll showcase a bulletpoint of my thoughts for this map.

Pros:

• the soundtrack is perhaps one of the best utilised in jailbreak
• generally good secrets (disco one and the hidden backdoor ammo pack)
• the geometry and aesthetics are well done
• most minigames function well and are great choice-wise and in functionality

Cons:

• many other JB maps have multiple pathways to reach the MCA, there is only two, and one is through a one-way vent
• the left and right hall areas require some form of alternate entrance to reach the outside areas
• why is space gravity a thing? (i get its funny but its generally laggy and should perhaps be replaced with a better system)
• the DR pyro hadouken trap is so easily avoidable, couldn't kill the most clueless player
• reaching this ammopack in dodgeball is nonviable in servers that disable scouts double jumping, also classist map design (why just scout??) is generally a lawful or chaotic evil thing to do in JB maps. i mean you could caberjump yet still, that's perhaps only 1 out of the nine classes which can acquire this.
  

 

[laxlijam]

hypothetical ideas for if this map were to be revamped

• escape secret involving escaping via a rocket? (probably only good on paper but it'd be an interesting concept)
• add more alternate pathways from and through the main cell area please for gods sake one hallway and a ventilation shaft isn't gonna cut it
• more accessible ammo secrets and secrets in general which dont detract from the main design philosophy and aesthetics of the original map
• perhaps if the map were to be expanded further the additions of more minigames which are more commonly seen could be added? (climb, etc)
• fix the pyro deathrun trap

 

[laxlijam]

all i got now for this thread this was made purely out of boredom and to satiate my neurological hyperfixation on this map

 

[laxlijam]

oh yeah about dodging the uh truck trap in DR: i personally think its cool though objectively it is probably something that should be patched. you shouldn't be able to do that kinda stuff in a deathrun course but personally i think its awesome and its something i wouldn't change if i were to revamp it.

 

[Buns]

If you want the map files I can just give you them if you want. Hammer is hard to learn but if you really care enough you can make these changes

 

[laxlijam]

it's not that i really hate these aspects of the map, it's moreso a criticism bought out of a post i created purely out of boredom. again its a favourite map of mine. i just made this post to disparage my thoughts and own analysis in regards to it. i don't have much free-time to really dedicate myself to it but it may be something i could do in the far future but its wholly ungarunteed. thanks again for the response.

 

[laxlijam]

it's not that i really hate these aspects of the map, it's moreso a criticism bought out of a post i created purely out of boredom. again its a favourite map of mine. i just made this post to disparage my thoughts and own analysis in regards to it. i don't have much free-time to really dedicate myself to it but it may be something i could do in the far future but its wholly ungarunteed. thanks again for the response.

though i would appreciate it if the bsp file was sent over, i could put a pin on it obv