2 player reports (1 Viewer)

[stalker455655]

People that broke rules :[LGD] OxyGenE,
★☠☢Shadow☢☠★,
valeria.kochianovaCZ
Rules Broken : Teamkilling
Evidence:

Thank you for reading this
-stalker455655/Igor

 

[illikal03]

[LGD]OxyGenE and valerie.kocianovaCZ are banned for 1 day.

★☠☢Shadow☢☠★ is banned for 1 week (6th ban but longest ban was 1 day, so made this one 1 week, next ban is permanent)

Thx for your report.

 

[stalker455655]

[LGD]OxyGenE and valerie.kocianovaCZ are banned for 1 day.

★☠☢Shadow☢☠★ is banned for 1 week (6th ban but longest ban was 1 day, so made this one 1 week, next ban is permanent)

Thx for your report.

Thank you for banning them .

 

[Danny]

Would you please record a demo, instead of taking screenshots?
The players may have protected themselves from the other teammates, by killing them.
You should add the the rulebreakers' SteamIDs in your further reports, which makes it easier for us to handle the situation.

 

[ITF Guerilla]

About [LGD] OxyGenE ...
I saw it. It was mistake and he imidietely explained it in voicechat ... I have screenshot with this teamkill too (i was on-line). I know [LGD] OxyGenE, he is good player and he know rules good.
I know this is still rulebreaking, but i wanted only say it and support [LGD] OxyGenE
It's just that good players these accidents discouraged from playing

 

[Danny]

I suggest that only demos/videos will be accepted as evidence, if the players are breaking rules that can not be caught on the screen, such as actions. In my opinion, the screenshots that can be accepted are those that are about textspamming/harassment or visual rulebreaking (pornspray etc.).

 

[illikal03]

For teamkilling, a screenshot is more then enough proof. Since you are never allowed to teamkill as blue, even if you are attacked by one.

 

[Danny]

For teamkilling, a screenshot is more then enough proof. Since you are never allowed to teamkill as blue, even if you are attacked by one.

Ever heard about self-defense?

 

[EvoWarrior5]

Apparently that's never allowed either. Dunno why stealing is allowed to save yourself but teamkilling is not...

 

[illikal03]

As evo says, if you are in blue and a teammate attacks you it is not allowed to defend yourself. Since if you do and you kill him you are the teamkiller. It has been like that for some time and i don't see why it needs to change.

If it changes it means screenshots of teamkillers is not enough proof anymore wich makes punishing teamkillers harder.

 

[Danny]

Didn't Kevin enable the recording thing on all of the servers, a couple a days ago?

 

[Noodl]

It's a dumb concept because I can be killed by a blue, have to sit out a round, and have no possibility to defend myself from the guy chasing me with a bat.

Jailbreak is such a broken ruleset and mod...

As Evo said, if stealing is allowed to defend, so you can survive 4 minute rounds at most, I should be able to kill the guy who's currently whacking me with a melee, so I don't have to sit out for 15 minutes.

 

[ITF Guerilla]

Or take more administrators to jailbreak.
Approximately 50% of the time I play, admin is not on-line.
And when he was online, he said me: make demo and post it to the forum. I can not see all.
In my optinion, when it is much rulebreakers in jailbreak and admin misses rulebreakers, admin should look situation from specate. And he only played and when people attention rulebreakers, he said make demo. :/ Lel
PS: I don't want say his name

 

[Fishy]

Or take more administrators to jailbreak.
Approximately 50% of the time I play, admin is not on-line.
And when he was online, he said me: make demo and post it to the forum. I can not see all.
In my optinion, when it is much rulebreakers in jailbreak and admin misses rulebreakers, admin should look situation from specate. And he only played and when people attention rulebreakers, he said make demo. :/ Lel
PS: I don't want say his name

Jesus Christ, we already have like 10 admins for that server.
We don't play there 24/7, we have a life and other things to do.
Anyway, I agree with Dan and Evo, self-defense should be allowed. Sometimes it happens that people in blu kill each other, and I'm forced to slay the guy who killed the other guy who attacked him first because you can't defend yourself.
After playing in that server for so much time I realized how broken that "mod" is. And, in my opinion, it should be deleted. It's just a rulebreakers/ban-fest.

 

[Noodl]

And I would agree, screenshots are deictic, and I don't think administering sanctions based on still screenshots is correct.

I also believe demos with console status should be a requirement in player reports. We can add as many admins as we want, there's still going to be times without one.

 

[Matth]

That's not me at 100%, I'd remember it. BTW, Admin could have been right.
One only admin who has to manage more than 20 players, can't see everything, even spectating!!

About teamkilling, I Agree with @DanEdward, that demos should be made, instead of screenshots. Or, anyway, not one screenshots but more! The last 3 teamkills I saw were not intentional. The players confirmed it in voice or text chat apologizing, and that was really evident, too, since I saw the scenes.
Sometimes, when they have to kill a rebel, they can teamkill by mistake a mate who is trying to kill the rebel, too. Or, blues can really forget friendly fire is on (it happens many times); Or, a guy could be lagging, and you can imagine the consequence; or, in Freeday, guards want to fight each other, and so (if both agree on the fight!!,) if Warden allows it, they can do it.
Then, there are the teamkillers who kill Warden or the whole blue team, and it's clearly intentionally.
Lastly, there is the case of Shadow. I know that player on server. I'm pretty sure he was helping OxyGen who was valerie's target. BUT he should know that he can't teamkill even for defence. And, since he wants to take revenge, not respecting rules, it's right he gets a ban. OxyGen, well, the same. He teamkilled, but we can't know if by mistake or because they were starting a fight (who started it, then?).

Guerilla, are you sure none of the cases I mentioned happened in these teamkills?

So, demos are more advisable, in my opinion.

 

[Noodl]

So I guess that the consensus will be that demos are a necessity for reports.

I know I usually say it as a joke, but it's seeming like serious decisions of the future of jailbreak should be considered. The server is a mess and causes more trouble than all other servers put together.

 

[ITF Guerilla]

I was browsing applications for admins and 90% people writting their online time is average from 4pm-5pm to 22pm. I play very often in this range and as i said ... more then 50% time in not admin on-line ...
So... When server has a lot of admins as DatAssassin said, why i can't see them very often in game, if all admin writting their online time is from about 4-5pm to about 22pm ?
Matt: When i will at home, i will look at my screenshot and i will see

 

[Noodl]

Because you're expecting people to play a single gamemode for 7 hours a night. We have lives and over interests, for example, I have college during most middays, and I have singing rehearsals on 4 out of 7 days, I have a girlfriend, other friends, and different games we like to play, I'm not even going to play TF2 on several of those nights.

Adding more admins isn't an effective tactic, you can't simply add more of a solution and expect it to work with less adequate solutions.

 

[stalker455655]

I suggest that only demos/videos will be accepted as evidence, if the players are breaking rules that can not be caught on the screen, such as actions. In my opinion, the screenshots that can be accepted are those that are about textspamming/harassment or visual rulebreaking (pornspray etc.).

Jesus Christ, we already have like 10 admins for that server.
We don't play there 24/7, we have a life and other things to do.
Anyway, I agree with Dan and Evo, self-defense should be allowed. Sometimes it happens that people in blu kill each other, and I'm forced to slay the guy who killed the other guy who attacked him first because you can't defend yourself.
After playing in that server for so much time I realized how broken that "mod" is. And, in my opinion, it should be deleted. It's just a rulebreakers/ban-fest.

Jailbreak is a broken mod thats true, but its fun at least for me .I dont agree with removing .

That's not me at 100%, I'd remember it. BTW, Admin could have been right.
One only admin who has to manage more than 20 players, can't see everything, even spectating!!

About teamkilling, I Agree with @DanEdward, that demos should be made, instead of screenshots. Or, anyway, not one screenshots but more! The last 3 teamkills I saw were not intentional. The players confirmed it in voice or text chat apologizing, and that was really evident, too, since I saw the scenes.
Sometimes, when they have to kill a rebel, they can teamkill by mistake a mate who is trying to kill the rebel, too. Or, blues can really forget friendly fire is on (it happens many times); Or, a guy could be lagging, and you can imagine the consequence; or, in Freeday, guards want to fight each other, and so (if both agree on the fight!!,) if Warden allows it, they can do it.
Then, there are the teamkillers who kill Warden or the whole blue team, and it's clearly intentionally.
Lastly, there is the case of Shadow. I know that player on server. I'm pretty sure he was helping OxyGen who was valerie's target. BUT he should know that he can't teamkill even for defence. And, since he wants to take revenge, not respecting rules, it's right he gets a ban. OxyGen, well, the same. He teamkilled, but we can't know if by mistake or because they were starting a fight (who started it, then?).

Guerilla, are you sure none of the cases I mentioned happened in these teamkills?

So, demos are more advisable, in my opinion.

True, i heard OxyGenE saying that he killed him since he was freekilling. But i remembered that Evo said "teamkilling is not allowed at ALL".

So I guess that the consensus will be that demos are a necessity for reports.

I know I usually say it as a joke, but it's seeming like serious decisions of the future of jailbreak should be considered. The server is a mess and causes more trouble than all other servers put together.

Now, not everyone can record a demo or video, for some reason every time i record demo its either my pc freezes or it just doesnt work , i will be buying a new pc and only then i will be able to record .So what i am saying is that if you do make demo/video as only report way, i wont be able to report and maybe some other people as well .