Completed Death request rule alteration (1 Viewer)

[Nergal Nergalton]

Death request suggestion time! This was discussed with other admins so I feel confident in posting this

Most Jailbreak players know about Desth Request (DR). This is what the current rules have to say:

Prisoners are also entitled to a DR after they have chosen their LR. The DR must take a maximum of 2 minutes to prevent delaying, if it lasts longer the Warden or guards can end the round by killing them.

The rules say a DR must take a maximum of two minutes. That sounds good and all, but the problem it doesn’t say EXACTLY when the 2 minutes has to start. What do I mean by this? It means that a RED could take a minute to choose their LR, a further minute or so to get to their DR location, and then do two more minutes in said location, as the vagueness of when the DR “timer” starts means it’s commonly claimed and enforced that the DR two minute “timer” starts once the RED is in their DR location, after all the other time wasted choosing their LR and getting to the DR location.

My suggestion is to implement a hard rule that the DR two minute “timer” begins immediately after the last non rebelling RED is given their LR by the warden, meaning choosing the LR and getting to the DR location take place during the two minute duration. A preferable alteration to the rules would probably look like this (additions in bold):

Prisoners are also entitled to a DR after they have chosen their LR. The DR must take a maximum of 2 minutes, starting from the moment the prisoner receives their LR, to prevent delaying, if it lasts longer the Warden or guards can end the round by killing them.

So, vote away.

 

[Mehgend]

God bless you Nergal, they were saying remove DR and this suggestion has given DR a new chance for life.

I hope this is what DR needs to stay in the game

 

[SirKrookodile]

Yes, kill all delayers!!!

 

[ItsNotCalassic]

Can we throw in the option to remove DR and an option to lower the DR timer to 1min?

 

[Nergal Nergalton]

Can we throw in the option to remove DR and an option to lower the DR timer to 1min?

A previous suggestion from long ago to remove DR entirely didn’t pass.

 

[Dr. Meatloaf]

I am in favor of this so long as it remains clear that people aren’t going to be guard banned for letting the DR go longer than 2 minutes, just that they have the right to kill them after 2 minutes.

Since the proposed change keeps the part of the rule saying “if it lasts longer the Warden or guards CAN end the round by killing them” instead of saying that they MUST end the round this seems fine to me.

Also I’m in favor of adding the vote option to restrict to one minute or eliminating the requirement entirely and making DR optional like I think calassic is suggesting, so long as we can have multiple votes. Let democracy do its thing.

 

[Bananawastaken]

For the record nobody is ever going to get punished for this (unless it’s a red maliciously delaying), it isn’t a rule it’s more of an adjustment to current guidelines.

 

[Mehgend]

I am in favor of this so long as it remains clear that people aren’t going to be guard banned for letting the DR go longer than 2 minutes, just that they have the right to kill them after 2 minutes.

Since the proposed change keeps the part of the rule saying “if it lasts longer the Warden or guards CAN end the round by killing them” instead of saying that they MUST end the round this seems fine to me.

I agree with the sentiment but wording it like that leaves it a little too open for abusing the wording and refusing to kill even if DR is over and it’s rather boring.

I think it should be bannable and team bannable if its done malicious and I believe we as a community are smart enough to not misconstrue what’s incredibly overkill and what is just the warden allowing a 10-30 seconds extra if a DR is at all exciting.


Or maybe not brother because damn some of y’all are dumb as rocks in all honesty not naming names but they know who they are…

 

[Eagle_attack]

How will this work if only freedays are left?

 

[Bananawastaken]

How will this work if only freedays are left?

The moment they are the only ones eligible for a death request, the timer starts then.

 

[Eagle_attack]

The moment they are the only ones eligible for a death request, the timer starts then.

So the system will know when only freedays are left?

 

[SirKrookodile]

So the system will know when only freedays are left?

it's not going to be a plugin. It'll just be a general update to the current ruleset in regards to drs.

 

[BritishMafia]

I wish it was a plugin because I am guilty for letting drs go for way too long because I'm not sure when they started and what time they should be over

 

[Eagle_attack]

it's not going to be a plugin. It'll just be a general update to the current ruleset in regards to drs.

Ah thanks for clearing up

 

[Mehgend]

I wish it was a plugin because I am guilty for letting drs go for way too long because I'm not sure when they started and what time they should be over

I think the issue with it being a plugin is DR is super social based more often than not.
Cutting off social interactions with a timer doesn’t allow for people to go over time when the time calls for it, and in my opinion that sacrifice is just a little too not worth losing.
But I can see why people would want a plugin. If there’s one going around then it can be suggested eventually I suppose.

 

[Cowboy]

I've been hijacked help

There's not even an option to limit to 30 seconds like I originally proposed.

 

[PokeMario17]

apparently i'm the only one to vote no, so i think I misunderstood something here

 

[NyanBat]

the main problem with this that I have encountered is a lot of the time blues delay complying with the dr. For example if a red wants to play stairway with the blues, I don't think that their dr should be cut down to 30 secs just because blues delayed getting into the minigame for a min and a half. I think instead the 2 min timer should start once the actual dr is started, not when the lr is given.

 

[ItsNotCalassic]

I've been hijacked help

There's not even an option to limit to 30 seconds like I originally proposed.

 

[CutePyro0]

My suggestion is to implement a hard rule that the DR two minute “timer” begins immediately after the last non rebelling RED is given their LR by the warden

i was on the understanding that while this was not explicitly stated in the rules that was already when it meant to start and from observation @Musisphaera @Bananawastaken and myself among several others already start the clock for dr at this time anyways.

i see no reason to have this not clarified Voted YES