Completed Map abuse rule for Dodgeball (1 Viewer)

[TBotV63]

So, a couple questions about this arose on db recently, and I thought explicitely adding a rule in the db section might help to clarify this:

• No exploiting / abusing map features
  
  This is already covered by our general ruleset §3b (Exploiting).
  • It is not allowed to position yourself in map areas not intended to be accessible.
  • It is not allowed to abuse ledges or similar map features by airblasting the rocket into them

This has been the policy thus far.

 

[Lighty]

strangely enough, the no map abusing rule is spammed in-game by the server but is not included in the rules on this website.

 

[TBotV63]

I believe when we revamped it we assumed the the general 3b would be enough. Apparently it isn't. About the spam, noone actually reads it anyway

 

[klay]

I would replace the first one with areas that break the game. Like on the space map with low gravity you can go under the map. That breaks the game but it could be that it is intended to be accessible.

The problem with the second part is that maps get abused accidentally all the time, even by players who try not to do so. It can be quite hard to decide whether an abuse was intentional or not. I pretty much never punish because of it, only warn people. Ofc it's an obvious abuse I go bully.

Also USDB will hate this rule. They want the dome.

 

[TBotV63]

The problem with the second part is that maps get abused accidentally all the time, even by players who try not to do so. It can be quite hard to decide whether an abuse was intentional or not. I pretty much never punish because of it, only warn people. Ofc it's an obvious abuse I go bully.

People also steal accidentally / to protect themselves etc. etc. But if it's an accident you aren't abusing it as that (imo) requires the intention. As for that particular map you reference, It's the one I had in mind and personally I'd just get rid of it. (Like a lot of shitty maps)

But yeah, we could reword it.

 

[Cryptic]

Also USDB will hate this rule. They want the dome.

Funny for you to say, 'cause we were grieving over the dome the other day.

It is not allowed to abuse ledges or similar map features by airblasting the rocket into them

You already know where I, and the majority of USDB, stand. Using ledges is not considered as map abuse, unless the rocket breaks. Ledges drastically change the rocket's direction. However, players, dispensers, platforms (like on greybox), do as well.

As for that particular map you reference, It's the one I had in mind and personally I'd just get rid of it. (Like a lot of shitty maps)

Last time someone removed/added maps, they did so without the consideration of others. But I agree, the DB community should come together and vote which maps to remove/add.

Spoiler: No catland!

Map's too bright, can't see the rocket. Rockets come outta no where. Players airblast the rocket underneath the platform causing it to break.

 

[TBotV63]

You already know where I, and the majority of USDB, stand. Using ledges is not considered as map abuse, unless the rocket breaks. Ledges drastically change the rocket's direction. However, players, dispensers, platforms (like on greybox), do as well.

Uh oh ok, usdb is being special again... I can live with that. At least on eudb this has been standard procedure for quite some time. Also I still have a dome based map to dangle infront of u even tho I'm too lazy to finish it

Last time someone removed/added maps, they did so without the consideration of others. But I agree, the DB community should come together and vote which maps to remove/add.

And they did so with majority vote on the forums in a week long poll.

Map's too bright, can't see the rocket. Rockets come outta no where. Players airblast the rocket underneath the platform causing it to break.

That would be one of the maps I'd get rid of. Hate it lel.

 

[Cryptic]

Uh oh ok, usdb is being special again... I can live with that. At least on eudb this has been standard procedure for quite some time.

This has been a standard procedure on USDB as well. The previous ex-Fulls on USDB were the ones who informed me that it's not map abuse, unless the rocket breaks.

And they did so with majority vote on the forums in a week long poll.

You must be mistaken, 'cause I'm not talking about any recent changes on the current maps. The situation happened awhile back, prior you even being Trial.

 

[TBotV63]

You must be mistaken, 'cause I'm not talking about any recent changes on the current maps. The situation happened awhile back, prior you even being Trial.

Ah well, I thought you were alluding to the fucking dome again

 

[Madact]

Can someone give me a revamped version then? Or is it the one in the first post?

Slightly confused, not really my area so ^^; Please DB team :3c

 

[TBotV63]

No exploiting / abusing map features

This is already covered by our general ruleset §3b (Exploiting).

• It is not allowed to position yourself in ways that cause delay / otherwise obstruct gameplay.
• It is not allowed to abuse ledges or similar map features by airblasting the rocket into them.

Note that this is for #4, #19 and #29 only, USDB will get their knickers in a twist if we apply it there too.

@klay dis gud or got anything to add?

 

[klay]

Feels bad, needing specific rules for eudb. I don't have more to add, looks good to me.

 

[Madact]

All right I'll add this tomorrow. Giving time for anything to add from others.

 

[klay]

Looks like someone forgot. I hope you won't kill me if I add it.