Declined Judy_cube's Ban appeal (1 Viewer)

[Judy_cube]

What's your username? yhvsm

What is your SteamID? STEAM_0:0:561083675

What is your type of punishment? Ban

Where were you banned from? Servers

Who has punished you? Console

Why were you punished? [Little Anti-Cheat 1.7.1] Aimbot Detected

Why should we revoke your punishment? Hi I wanted to appeal this false positive/ false anti cheat ban that happened almost 4 years ago, I have some arguments that could help convince you So first , I think the age of the ban could help convince you, it happened a long time ago and there aren’t demos, and the from what I checked the last LILAC ban happened 3 years ago so I don’t think LILAC is being used in your servers anymore, you guys use stAC now, and I’ve seen a lot false positives that were appealed for the same reason as me, so I think because of all my points , lack of evidence, age , and I don’t there a logs, that could justify an unban, Sorry I didn’t appeal before

 

[Fredo]

Your account is banned for cheating on:
Blackwonder, Sappho.io, SG-Gaming and on Flux.tf with an alt account.

I highly doubt the lilac ban was a false positive.
Declined.
Reevaluating...

 

[Judy_cube]

First I got banned from black wonder because of cl_interp it even says on the ban, it was my mistake I forgot to put it to a normal value,, but that's not cheating like the admin says

Second, the sappho ban is probably the weakest ban, like Multi hack the reason is such a lazy ban reason that doesn't even count,

Third SG , I got banned for lagswitching and I appealed and they said that they didn't have enough evidence but I was banned from a lot of communities so just to be sure they weren't going to unban me, that's why I'm appealing now

4th That's not me ,straight up I don't what's that sourceban. but that's not me, I play in Flux quite regularly and I have a screenshot of me joining today just to prove I'm not banned

 

[Judy_cube]

I think with the arguments debunked I think I should be considered in favor of an unban

 

[Judy_cube]

Also if you anymore doubts you can ask me

 

[Fredo]

First I got banned from black wonder because of cl_interp it even says on the ban, it was my mistake I forgot to put it to a normal value,, but that's not cheating like the admin says

While it is true that a high interpolation is more exploiting than cheating, the ban reason also mentions backtrack, which is cheating. I tried to review the demo but not even the demoplayback betas worked for me unfortunately.
I know Blackwonder has an automatic detection for high cl_interp settings, so the manual ban kind of looks like it was actual backtrack, which is not really auto-detectable.

Second, the sappho ban is probably the weakest ban, like Multi hack the reason is such a lazy ban reason that doesn't even count,

"Multi-Hack" is one of the default ban reasons in sourcemods ban menu. The actual reason for it is an ETF2L mirror ban. Which is based on a cheating ban...
Weird how you didn't think this was worth mentioning.

Third SG , I got banned for lagswitching and I appealed and they said that they didn't have enough evidence but I was banned from a lot of communities so just to be sure they weren't going to unban me, that's why I'm appealing now

I tried to find the appeal, but their forum is currently down so i cannot verify this claim.

4th That's not me ,straight up I don't what's that sourceban. but that's not me, I play in Flux quite regularly and I have a screenshot of me joining today just to prove I'm not banned

Pretty sure that's you. This account joined panda with the same ip just 13 hours after your main got banned.
Your main was also named "Postal Dude" at the 8th of june 2022 (2 days after the ban at panda), as seen in the logged connection attempts on blackwonder sourcebans.

Spoiler

Found two more cheating related bans:
Petrol - Multi-Hack
Electric Servers - [StAC] Banned for pSilent after 10 detections

 

[Judy_cube]

I actually appealed in blackwonder , it's a bit of a cringey appeal but I they did confirm it was a cl interp ban https://blackwonder.tf/threads/guss-ban-appeal.34373/ and that they that didn't unban people who 'abused' I thought it was unfair but that's beside the point ,

Also I think that postal dude from blackwonder it's just the same account, Postal Dude is a popular character , I tried to confirm it with steam history but it doesn't go that far https://steamhistory.net/history/0/76561199082433078



I kind of thought I got mirror banned from sappho for that, I'm guessing that happened with petrol too, so I have a word document going over all of this accusations, and I talk about them, it was a document for a different community who accused me of backtrack , but I still explain the same concerns

 

[Judy_cube]

Sorry I didn't mentioning everything , I thought it was going to be an overload of information, so I thought it would be better to explain everything as you asked me, I think I can't add the document here so I'll paste what I said there here

 

[Judy_cube]

I figured out if I made it a pdf I can send it

 

[Judy_cube]

Hi , I was reading through the anti cheat appeal archives and I noticed something that I thought could be heloful to bring up, so my ban was in 2022, and I read that in 2022 there were a lot of false positives and aimbot detection was unreliable, here's also Fredo saying it, and my ban coincides with that date , I also went ahead and did the match of what was the false positive rate with aim related bans , I didn't know if I should include aimlock so I did 2 versions 1 with aim lock included one without,


With aimlock ban appeals included there was a 91.43% false positive rate

3 denied
32 false positives



Without aimlock appeals included there was an 83.33% false positive rate

3 denied
15 false positives

I think both are really high false positive rates and I think they could help my case that it was a false positive, or just to keep in mind
.

 

[Fredo]

With aimlock ban appeals included there was a 91.43% false positive rate

What you calculated isn't a false positive rate. It's just an appeal acceptance rate.

There seems to be a crapload of drama going on with some of those community bans. Tbh i don't really want to get in on that.
I'm mainly considering the silent aim stac ban on electric and the manual alt account cheating ban on flux.

Don't really care that they don't have logs for the StAC ban or that the specific server doesn't exist on this community anymore.
It may not be valid for ETF2L's ban guidelines, but it is valid for consideration here.
StAC is a good anticheat and I'm certain this ban is legit.

Also I don't have another single silent aim detection on any actually big community. [quoted from PDF file]

Well, first time for everything i guess.

The cheating ban on flux was undoubtedly you on an alt account.
I already explained my reasoning for it in this thread.
There is no changing my mind on this. This was you. Period.
And flux doesn't know this was your account when they banned you, so no "tHEY oLNY bANNED mE bCAUSE oF aLL tHE oTHER iNVALID bANs".


The ban on panda will stay. This decision is final.
Creating more appeals won't change that.
I will leave this thread open for two more days for you to respond, because i feel like you would just make new threads anyway if i close this right away.
If you have more question you can also message me via PM here in the forum or on discord @ underscorefredo

 

[Judy_cube]

But I didn't get banned by stac here ?


In this server, unless you're referring the other ban

I could talk to you more about it and try to convince but you already said it was final, so you tell me,

 

[Judy_cube]

I didn't know I was banned in flux somewhere else too until you told me too

 

[Judy_cube]

Well, first time for everything i guess.

My point wasn't that it proves my innocence, it was that I think if you think about it is weird, that not a single another ban was with automated detection and are just manual bans,

The cheating ban on flux was undoubtedly you on an alt account.

I'm very confused about that alt I genuinely don't know what it is, maybe you noticed, also I doubt it's undoubtedly, you're probably just very suspicious, even if it was from the same ip, there are multiple explanations , I know this isn't madact appeal, it's yours , and it wasn't a ban in panda

Also for my lilac panda ban, there are no logs , it would nice if you could confirm that, I know there are not because you would have brought them up if they were , just by knowing you

Also the document also shows me defending myself from cheating accusations and from backtrack, and I know you wanted to check for backtrack because of the blackwonder ban,

I think giving me the benefit of the doubt would be okay

 

[Judy_cube]

What you calculated isn't a false positive rate. It's just an appeal acceptance rate.

Yeah, in 2022, you know and have said the lilac aimbot bans were unreliable at the time, so my point was mostly that out of all the people who appealed for that reason almost all of them got accepted because of the false positive problem, also there are very little anti cheat appeals ,since 2021 to almost 2026, there are about 120 anti cheats appeals which is a very small pool compared to the ocean of the other appeals and most of them are , bhop related? I still wonder why is that, could you explain it?

 

[Judy_cube]

StAC is a good anticheat and I'm certain this ban is legit.

I think it is a good anti cheat, but they all make this mistakes, it happens, and it's not like you trust it completely, you have unbanned people from stAC bans and other admins have too, the most important thing and I know you know, is evidence and checking the logs, which there are no logs for my bans and there's not evidence too

 

[Fredo]

Declined.