Supplement for rules and suggestions for new rules (deahtrun) (1 Viewer)

Dragnoros

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The rules give the rule breakers many loopholes. That's why I write this report.


1. Delaying

normal in the list:
No delaying the round.
You get 7 minutes per round and you may utilize that by taking a bit of time at difficult pieces, but keep a move on, actively participate to the gamemode.

My opinion:

it's a stupid generalization, because everyone see it different.

I would say that a meaningless delaying brings no benefits and for a long time goes (example: + 30sec), is absolutely prohibited.
If you are waiting for a team member who wants to finish a minigame or a difficult part on a map (30sec). Why should not you wait there for a moment? It is always stupid if you can not finish the card, because irgentwelche "good" people rush through the map.

In a freerun delaying is actually okay. Except when there are hardly any players left or death makes a fake freerun or the map is very difficult (examples: bearun / playstation) Suicide is also a solution.

2. Teamkilling

• No teamkilling
This is included in our general "no griefing" rule but is added here to make it absolutely clear.
Examples of teamkilling:

1. Suicide when the rocket is locked onto you, causing it to change targets without notice.
2. Intentionally causing your rocket to hit your teammates instead of you. This includes orbiting the rocket into them and positioning yourself behind teammates in a way that puts them at risk of death caused by your rocket.


A pure addition:

Please insert active and passive.
Why? On the server I was sometimes able to hear the Statement, that it wasn't against the rules because it was not an active killing.


3. respect other player:

(I didnt found the rule^^)

What do you mean with that?

I think so the linguistic and written communication between players.

It's a generalization that allows players to go back against anything they do not like.
Example:

-> Tryhard gave freerun and I chose something different than he wanted. equal to 3 people get a reproach.
-> Another death could already hear that he would be dispensed because he didn't do deathrun.
-> Even the Schadenfreude Taunt is treated as disrespect.


4. Bugusing/skipping traps:

The admins have been different views. That's why I want to add a supplement here.

Skipping a case with bhop which does not kill when activating the trap isn't allowed. Also, active bugusing to cross the traps isn't allowed, too.


Supplement:

The expiry of a trap with bhop which is only possible with bhop should be accepted as a rule break.
not only for the manual traps but also for the 50/50 or 33/33/33 traps
->The best example is the doors on the map Cocainum which you can skip with a Taunt. If the Deaths activating the traps too late (like the doors on the map: Bazinga), isn't a rule break.


This is my first report on this matter. I hope he isn't too difficult to read ^ ^

Greetings,
Mr.Dragnoros
 

Dragnoros

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Why should not you wait there for a moment? It is always stupid if you can not finish the card, because irgentwelche "good" people rush through the map.

Dah. A pair mistakes.

It always stupid if you can't finish the MAP, because some "good" people rush through the map.
 

A Wild Tryhard

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1. No
If you are waiting for a team member who wants to finish a minigame or a difficult part on a map (30sec). Why should not you wait there for a moment? It is always stupid if you can not finish the map, because some "good" people rush through the map.
I rarely see speedrunners wait for the rest of the ppl to finish the map, but if they do, I think it's a waste of time for them to wait for the rest. It usually takes a minute or two for the rest of the team to get to the end, and it's a fair amount of time in dr standarts.

In a freerun delaying is actually okay. Except when there are hardly any players left or death makes a fake freerun or the map is very difficult (examples: bearun / playstation) Suicide is also a solution.
I noticed that on freeruns on the easier maps, people finish the map so quickly that there's no opportunity for the ppl that stay at spawn to stay there for long enough for it to really be considered delaying. Otherwise I still don't get it why people join a server just to not do anything, so still, if they do it for long enough for it to waste time I believe it should still be punishable.

2. No
1. Suicide when the rocket is locked onto you, causing it to change targets without notice.
2. Intentionally causing your rocket to hit your teammates instead of you. This includes orbiting the rocket into them and positioning yourself behind teammates in a way that puts them at risk of death caused by your rocket.
That's the dodgeball rule aginst teamkilling.
Teamkilling in dr falls under this rule
c) General disruptive behaviourThis includes a number of things, such as: prolonging rounds without due cause; teaming with a player on the opposing team; excessive spawn killing; blocking people’s sight; willingly assisting hackers by healing them or otherwise grievous acts.
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Please insert active and passive.
Why? On the server I was sometimes able to hear the Statement, that it wasn't against the rules because it was not an active killing.
What's passive teamkilling? The way I see it, teamkilling is teamkilling, and as long as it's done on purpose action is taken.

3. No change is suggested
(I didnt found the rule^^)
a) Offensive languageYou may not use any offensive language, which includes insults; excessive raging; disrespecting admins or other players or provoking them; or any kind of discrimination. Racism is strictly forbidden.
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Tryhard gave freerun and I chose something different than he wanted. equal to 3 people get a reproach.
Me and those ppl said that it's rude to not respect the death's respect, as it's an unwritten rule of sorts on the server. Other than that, I don't recall us expressing it in a rude manner.
Even the Schadenfreude Taunt is treated as disrespect.
It isn't, no one's gonna ban anyone for taunting, even if it's kinda rude within context

4. Nothing new is being suggested

There's a very detailed thread about the skipping rule, Click Here to see it.

Pretty sure everything you've suggested there is already discussed about in that thread, with the exception of what you said about using a partner taunt to skip doors, which is considered exploiting and is bannable.

TLDR: nah
 

Madact

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Looking at the above I don't believe this will go anywhere.

If the dr admins have an ideas on extending any rules and such for explanation then feel free like you guys have done in the past.
Thanks for your feedback though original post. I don't believe you intended it to be a suggestion, so I'll move this back to feedback.
 

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