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Remove random crits from Mario Kart?


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Zeprus

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So, some time has passed and I feel like we should/could do yet another vote about random crits on Mario Kart.
This vote is mainly due to a personal dislike of random crits, however I've seen others talk about removing them as well.
Since Mario Kart is a deathmatch server it should garuantee fair fights, now the game Team Fortress 2 itself is well balanced, with some exceptions, BUT there is one huge design flaw wich is also disabled when playing competetive.
Random crits. This is one part of the game wich always made me feel bad, be it getting killed by a random crit or killing someone with it. Removing them would mean mainly two things:
1) Make fights more fair.
2) Remove one huge rage inducer from the server.

Even though Mario Kart is a deathmatch server it's also meant to be fun, hence we have fun commands and shouldn't have random crits.

The poll will be open for one week, every person can change their vote whenever they feel like it and votes will be visible for everyone.

 
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I'll just trow in a yes.

Altho I am not a big fan of this because of the size of the map.
This will buff the Sniper a lot.

Fair is Fair, Good things also bring bad sides with it.
 

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how can that be a good thing ?

Mario kart is well visited by new tf2 players which mostly means they are bad in this game obviously while some of the major mario kart players are insaely good in this game and they team up , even if they are in the opposite team which makes it less a fair deathmatch server . The bad players could not even leave their spawn because some of the major players to good , mostly you never see thoose bad or new players again or the server will go really fast empty , if you remove crits you will actually leave the bad or new players not a chance to kill somebody and it will increase the chance that the server gets quickly empty . And its not even the bad players who are needing crits even i need crits aswell (no i dont want to say that i am a good player) in cases like if players go 3 vs 1 against me , if i am low hp or a pyro (demoknight , piss'n bushwacka sniper , market gardener soldier etc.) goes directly at me . Maybe we all need crits we just dont know it or can(will) not agree that.
 

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And Seconldy if you want to make Mario Kart to a fair deathmatch server you need to do more than just removing crits
 
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2) Remove one huge rage inducer from the server.
From what I've seen, people who rage about random crits tend to rage about a lot of other things too. Sure, it's a bit annoying, but it can also be very satisfying when you get the crits (as Kitso said, if you're on low HP, those crits can save your life).

I understand if people want to disable crits on our more "competitive" servers like hightower, but it doesn't really make sense on a mario_kart server which is supposed to be a random and fun TF2 experience. I've always liked the crits as a part of the game.

Also, how this is supposed to make fights "more fair"? The map is already unbalanced, with snipers and soldiers having the obvious advantage.

I'm voting no on this one.
 

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1) Make fights more fair.

How this makes fights more fair if we are (mostly) against the new players?

I totally agreed with Kitso and Jarza. Random crits add it's own spice on the server and also it gives more fair to competive. Mario kart has a lot of new players , who doesnt have skills, they only have random crits and luck. Also killing other players is so satisfying, no matter if you had random crits. Mario kart supposed to be more like friendly server than being competive.

Removing random crits doesnt make any better , it only makes server to be more boring and never heard other "raging" because of random crits.
 
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if you remove crits you will actually leave the bad or new players not a chance to kill somebody
Mario kart has a lot of new players , who doesnt have skills, they only have random crits and luck.

Wich totally isn't true, while these players might not have the skill level of our top players they do get kills every once in a while and those are, from what I've seen, mostly either heavy, sniper or spy kills. And most of the time these kills aren't crits.

demoknight , piss'n bushwacka sniper , market gardener soldier etc.
The most ocmmonly used demoknight weapons don't have random crits. bushwacka doesn't have random crits, market gardener doesn't have random crits so why would you need them?

Maybe we all need crits we just dont know it or can(will) not agree that.
Sure, it's a bit annoying, but it can also be very satisfying when you get the crits
Also killing other players is so satisfying, no matter if you had random crits.
I admit that sometimes a crit can be satisfying but most of the time I simply feel bad for getting them.

soldiers having the obvious advantage.
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From what I've seen, people who rage about random crits tend to rage about a lot of other things too.
it only makes server to be more boring and never heard other "raging" because of random crits.
I'm not talking about raging in chat or on mic here, I'm more talking about being frustrated and getting into a bad mood. At least it's really frustrating for me to fight a low hp solidier or demoman and getting a crit rocket/sticky somewhat close to you being instantly killed no matter how much hp you have.

which is supposed to be a random and fun TF2 experience
Mario kart supposed to be more like friendly server than being competive.
I do agree that Mario Kart isn't a super serious competitive deathmatch server but as stated earlier in my opinion it's neither fun to get killed by a random crit nor, in the most cases, killing someone with it wich is why I created this thread.
 

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1) Make fights more fair.
2) Remove one huge rage inducer from the server.

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I agree whit that and i hate randome critz too that's why i say yes!
 
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Wolf

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Maybe this whole Crit discussion would fit better for our duel server perhaps?

MarioKart is a map new players enjoy after all~
I almost forgot that importand fact.

Edit: Also the RTD really bother some players who are having duels.
 

Zeprus

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Maybe this whole Crit discussion would fit better for our duel server perhaps?

MarioKart is a map new players enjoy after all~
I almost forgot that importand fact.

Edit: Also the RTD really bother some players who are having duels.
As stated earlier our active and regular player mainly have a high skill level, new players usually don't stay for too long and rarely become regulars. Since I doubt people look for random crits when joining a server, but I know for a fact that some people look for no random crits I don't think it'll affect new players. Also our brains don't recognize the usual as much as the unusual, playing on a server and not getting a random crit won't be recognized as much as actually getting killed or killing with one therefore people propably won't notice until they become regulars.
 
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I think we should remove from Hightower to.That is so anonying when u got killed by lucky crit things.Not going to be fair.Mostly like in duelish things.
 
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