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Declined Orange #27 - New map

Discussion in 'Archive' started by Puddin, May 19, 2017.

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New map?

Poll closed May 26, 2017.
  1. Yes

    63.6%
  2. No

    36.4%
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  1. Puddin

    Puddin Banned

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    Basically, a repost of my suggestion as it was accepted back then, the map got changed and after I got banned, it was changed back to the default cp_orange map.

    I'm not sure why it was changed back as the map I suggested/am suggesting (cp_orange_final) has everything and close to no cons.

    - Team Spawn Barriers
    - More covers/objects instead of it being just flat
    - Snipers are less OP due to sightlines being not so, uhh, OP themselves
    - Ammo/HP pickups
    - etc..

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  2. Madact

    Madact Well-Known Member

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    I've noticed that Kevin has voted no in this, so I'm unsure what the likelyhood of this will happen.

    I'm confused why it's a no. Is there something wrong with this map? Is it unpopular or something? Cause it has orange in the name...erm...
     
  3. Absinthe

    Absinthe Trial Gameserver Admin
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    So...

    Why Players play Orange:

    • Its one of the most popular map in TF2.
    • It's simple and "easy" to understand the whole map.
    • It's one of the best maps to practice explosive jumping (Sticky Jump, Rocket Jumo, etc)... Sure there are jump maps, but this one has the ramps and some pretty neat achievable jump sequences and bullets to dodge.
    • The objetive: This one has a lot of opinions, yes Orange is known for not capping, because it's about the killing, but time to time a player shows up and starts capping the point and you are forced to defend it, in my opinion it is amusing to do so; When you notice there are more than 6 people defending and attacking, sure it's terrible when are only 6 people on the server, its not that funny, but when the server has 12 players at that point the capping is not an issue anymore, there will be a variety of classes. I'm saying that capping keeps the players aware of the "objetive" of the map, rather then Spawn-> Run towards the enemy side -> Killing them -> Dying -> Spawn again, the objetive makes the players to run on every corner of the map and still killing the enemy team.
    • The 3rd point: Yes... Those sentry nest's, what a pain to deal with them... Or just change to demo sticky jump high enough and shoot some pills towards the nest, it may not work but sure is a good challenge time to time. And its a challenge for the engineers too. There are many ways to destroy them, just try and keep having fun.
    • Orange is a simple map, maybe for crappy computers its the only map that they can run without playing with a low frame rate.
    • Spawn-Camping is one of the most problematic things, but its easy to avoid that, Im a new Trial-Admin on that server and ill help whenever Im online and whenever the server as players in it, yes I can't be there 24/7 on every month, and that can be fixed with those barries or even shutters to prevent snipers to Farm points.
    • At last... The sniper problem in Orange, yes this is a problem because the sniper can make himself the "God" of Orange, he can watch the other side of them map and the sides of the main building. If a player that is a main sniper connects its a terrible feeling of not being capable to handle his skills, but I don't know, in a matter of time the sniper will die due to TeamWork or "Targetting" the player.

    I remember when I played cp_orange_final there wasnt a lot of players, and I think its because thats not the "Orange" we know, that all players love from some peculiar reason. That map has pointless decorations and buildings, dont get me wrong! The map is beautiful. If the map is changed I will certainly play in that map, and enjoy myself as I am enjoying myself at Orange_x3 :).

    Thank you for reading, and please give your opinion! I'm pretty curious on your counter idea!:)


     
  4. Madact

    Madact Well-Known Member

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    Aaaah I remember. It's that orange map with all the buildings and details.

    Maybe Kevin removed cause it's not what people are use to, so the population went down with it so he changed it back.
     
  5. Imulion

    Imulion Gameserver Admin
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    I like the idea but I rather would like it if the server would use the same one as the one that is already on war3source since it's being used a lot.

    It also has barriers and healthpacks can be added easily also it's already on one of the servers and also a panda property (I think). it Too doesn't have a propblem with players not having the feeling of orange.
     
  6. Puddin

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