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Declined Gunslinger's Admin Application

Discussion in 'Archived Applications' started by Gunslinger_, Mar 13, 2018.

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  1. Gunslinger_

    Gunslinger_ New Member

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    - Your name and/or nickname
    Known through multiple platforms as Gunslinger_, but I'd prefer to keep my name private.

    - Your age
    15 years old.

    - Who gave you permission to apply? (applies to applicants under 15 or those who apply for servers not listed in the "Available positions" thread)
    I am at the age requirement and applying with permission from Left 4 Zelda (through Steam).

    - Your Steam32 ID (this is not simply a profile link. Look up what it is and how to get it; simply posting what you think it is makes you seem unprofessional)
    My Steam32 ID is 172096371, and my standard Steam ID is STEAM_0:1:86048185.

    - Your general online times and your timezone
    My timezone is currently on the west coast (PST). I often play around 4:30 PM to 9:30 PM on weekdays and 12:00 PM to 10:30 PM on weekends.

    However, these times are only ranges as I only like to do small sessions while still remaining to visit the server often, which kind of leads to one to two and a half hours and about two to four play sessions in a single day, which I think allows me to catch up on other things I have. This may change on rare occasions.

    - Which of our servers do you usually play on and wish to apply for? Would you visit a broader range of servers in case of a report?
    I've always played on the TX Freak Fortress 2 server and I wish to apply for that server. I would visit a broader range of servers if needed, but I wouldn't be willing to administrate them completely.

    - Do you have a microphone? (This is a minimum requirement for Jailbreak admins)
    No, I don't feel I'm ready to use my voice yet. Plus, I'm not even playing in a private area 98% of the time.

    - Your previous experience as Admin or Moderator
    I've administrated and moderated different servers on other games. For earlier moderator roles, I've always brought a sort of playful attitude to my role as moderator, making me a bit more casual and not super strict. Plus, I think I've learned some good comebacks throughout the years.

    - Do you have experience with administrating with SourceMod?
    No, but I am willing to learn and ask questions regarding it since I know that's what will bring me to being a successful administrator.

    - Why should we choose you to be part of our team?
    I've seen many moments where there are people rulebreaking without an admin on, and recently, I've wanted to sort of level with those rulebreakers. I get told that I can't do anything about it, and the truth is that I can't. Essentially, I want to kind of fill a hole where there is one in the server, because it annoys me that there's always these opportunities for people to break what they shouldn't.

    I've always been willing to use the call command when needed, I've never forgotten it. I've kept my loyalty to the server, at least with what I think. I've listened to what other admins have to say, and I have that confidence inside to work with this server. I believe this server will teach me a lot of different things and new opportunities as well. I also can't forget that moderating and administrating makes me happy for some strange reason, but it's probably the fact that it gives me the feeling of helping people.

    - Finally, please briefly explain how you would do your job, e.g. a general overview of your policies and punishments.

    Voice / Chat Spamming - 2 warnings followed by a 1 hour mute, if done again or based on severity, multiply amount of mute hours by 2 (1, 2, 4, 8, etc.) Includes advertising, caps, admin impersonation, foreign language, and asking for items.

    Insulting / Offensive Terms - 1 to 2 warnings based on severity, followed by a multiplied hour of bans by 2 (1, 2, 4, 8, etc.) Includes threats.

    Admin Obstruction - 1 warning, followed by a 3 hour ban if player reveals name when unnecessary. A week long ban (7 days) occurs if done again.

    Avoiding Punishment - 1 warning if on a different nickname or IP address after on a last warning, followed by a 3 day ban (72 hours) if the same offense is done again with the different nickname or IP address.

    Map / Game Exploitation - 1 warning followed by a slay. If continued, a 1 hour ban, followed by a final ban by full administrator opinion or thought.

    Hacked Client / Tools - Immediate ban, followed by final ban or decision by full administrator opinion or thought.

    Out of Context Call - 1 warning, followed by a double week ban (14 days). A permanent ban to be finalized by an administrator will occur if done again.

    AFK / Idling - Ask player if they are AFK, followed by a timebomb. If player does not respond to the timebomb by moving or doing any other action, the player explodes. If idling for 2 or more rounds with the same procedure, the player is kicked, followed by a 1 hour ban if continued. Ban hours will be multiplied by 2 if the player continues to idle.

    Camping / Stalling - 2 warnings, followed by a timebomb. If player does not respond to the timebomb by moving out of the camping area or doing more damage, the player explodes. 2 extra warnings will be given out across other rounds if continued, followed by a kick and a 1 hour ban if continued. Ban hours will be multiplied by 2 if the player continues to stall.

    Teaming / Stalling - 1 warning, followed by a timebomb. If player continues to team through other rounds, a 1 hour ban will follow. 1 extra ban hour will be added if the player continues to team.

    Ghosting - 1 warning, followed by a 1 hour mute. 2 extra warnings will be given out throughout the rest of the other rounds if continued, leading to a 1 hour ban that will be multiplied by two each ban (1, 2, 4, 8, etc.)
    It's a bit of a long list.


    If anybody has their two cents about this application, go ahead and give it to me if you will. I'm always up to criticism and how I can fix my work. Thanks!
     
  2. Nim-os

    Nim-os Trial Gameserver Admin
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    Overall, the app seems great. Doesn't seem too rushed and it isn't filled with life stories (Not that I don't want to hear them).
    Your online times are quite nice, as it appears to be that you have a lot of online time throughout the day (Even if you aren't directly in front of the computer). Also, your supposed past of moderating/administrating a server will come in handy :)

    Regarding you on the server, you seem to be able to connect with people quite easily, as well as being rather talkative (Not in a bad sense). So that's good for me. What I don't see enough of however is you enforcing the rules. You do enforce the rules no doubt, but it would be better if you could enforce them more often. That might just be my lack of playing with you enough, but from what I have gathered so far, this is apparent. So if you can work on that, you are good to go. However, you do follow the rules quite well, and it seems as if you have learned from your Comm block back in January.

    My focus of right now though is to shape up your punishments.
    Your punishment lengths feel like they are fluctuating: You give small punishments for rather large offences (i.e. Admin Obstruction) and large punishments for small ones. You also did not provide a stopping point to your punishments that are going up by doubles, but I'll touch up on that below. My thoughts go as follows:
    Voice / Chat Spamming; Generally, this is paired up with insulting and should not be on the same level of Admin impersonation. For offences like this, I'd examine the typical layout for mutes/gags which varies from admin to admin, but is something along the lines of 1 - 2 hours, 12 hours, 1 day, 3 days, 1 week, Permanent. I'll refer to this punishment layout as *, as this comes up quite a lot in your punishments.

    Offensive Terms; Definitely too generous to the target. Racism and threats are not to be tolerated, often times leaving the player speechless for a day or more.

    Avoiding Punishment; Why would you warn a player who is obviously trying to escape punishment? And the ban might be a bit heavy for the first time, but that is up to you to decide how long it should be.

    Exploiting; Generally, you can warn people for a map exploit, but you shouldn't for a game one (i.e. Changing teams through the use of Tiny Mann). The ban is also quite heavy, because it seems to be that you are suggesting a permanent ban for the first time? Like Offensive terms, you should start out from around a day and go from there.

    Call Abuse; Quite a lengthy ban as well, I'd consider taking it down a notch.

    AFK; Again with the AFK Rejoin bans, use the * layout defined above.

    Camping / Stalling; No need for the kick, and also the predefined layout, *, should be used. You can also put teaming here, although with teaming I would do a slay instead of a timebomb.

    Ghosting; Like most, 2 warnings should be given, and the mutes/gags should follow the * layout.

    You also left out Inappropriate personal content (i.e. Sprays and Decals), so I can't make any further progress until you include them.

    Other than that, good work! For now though, since punishments are a critical part of your app, I'll stay neutral until a good resolve for the times can be discovered. Good luck regardless :)
     
  3. Gunslinger_

    Gunslinger_ New Member

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    Thanks for the feedback, Nim. I'll definitely add and fix my application, along with adding some extra things as soon as I can figure out how to edit my post because I'm not seeing any way to.
     
  4. Luigi123

    Luigi123 Gameserver Admin
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  5. Left 4 Zelda

    Left 4 Zelda Gameserver Admin
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    Steam:
    Nim pretty much said what was on my mind.
    The punishments do need work, although not really necessary to go in depth because we'll teach you if you get accepted but be sure to read through Nim's advice & take it into account. Just be sure to ask your mentor before punishing if you can.

    Overall, the app looks very nice & I do see you enforce a lot in your chat logs which is great!
    However, I'll have to remain neutral until I play with you more. I'm definitely leading towards positive based on your actions so far but I'll be keeping a close eye on you on & off the server.
    Good luck!
     
  6. Gunslinger_

    Gunslinger_ New Member

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    Steam:
    I've fixed my application, mainly around the punishments area. Check out the updated areas here instead.

    - Your name and/or nickname
    Known through multiple platforms as Gunslinger_, but I'd prefer to keep my name private.

    - Your age
    15 years old.

    - Who gave you permission to apply? (applies to applicants under 15 or those who apply for servers not listed in the "Available positions" thread)
    I am at the age requirement and applying with permission from Left 4 Zelda (through Steam).

    - Your Steam32 ID (this is not simply a profile link. Look up what it is and how to get it; simply posting what you think it is makes you seem unprofessional)
    My Steam32 ID is 172096371, and my standard Steam ID is STEAM_0:1:86048185.

    - Your general online times and your timezone
    My timezone is currently on the west coast (PST), which is about three hours behind the east coast timezone (EST). I often play around 4:30 PM to 9:30 PM on weekdays and 12:00 PM to 10:30 PM on weekends.

    However, these times are only ranges as I only like to do small sessions while still remaining to visit the server often, which kind of leads to one to two and a half hours and about two to four play sessions in a single day, which I think allows me to catch up on other things I have. This may change on rare occasions.

    - Which of our servers do you usually play on and wish to apply for? Would you visit a broader range of servers in case of a report?
    I've always played on the TX Freak Fortress 2 server and I wish to apply for that server. I would visit a broader range of servers if needed, but I wouldn't be willing to administrate them completely.

    - Do you have a microphone? (This is a minimum requirement for Jailbreak admins)
    No, I don't feel I'm ready to use my voice yet. Plus, I'm not even playing in a private area 98% of the time, so I feel it would make me feel pretty awkward.

    - Your previous experience as Admin or Moderator
    I've administrated and moderated different servers on other games. For earlier moderator roles, I've always brought a sort of playful attitude to my role as moderator, making me a bit more casual and not super strict. Plus, I think I've learned some good comebacks throughout the years, and I think stunning the users talking crap back to you is a pretty good solution when it does happen.

    - Do you have experience with administrating with SourceMod?
    No, but I am willing to learn and ask questions regarding it since I know that's what will bring me to being a successful administrator in my eyes.

    - Why should we choose you to be part of our team?
    I've seen many moments where there are people rulebreaking without an admin on, and recently, I've wanted to sort of level with those rulebreakers. I get told that I can't do anything about it, and the truth is that I can't. Essentially, I want to kind of fill a hole where there is one in the server, because it annoys me that there's always these opportunities for people to break what they shouldn't.

    I've always been willing to use the call command when needed, I've never forgotten it. I've kept my loyalty to the server, at least with what I think. I've listened to what other admins have to say, and I have that confidence inside to work with this server. I believe this server will teach me a lot of different things and new opportunities as well. I also can't forget that moderating and administrating makes me happy for some strange reason, but it's probably the fact that it gives me the feeling of helping people.

    - Finally, please briefly explain how you would do your job, e.g. a general overview of your policies and punishments.

    Voice / Chat Spamming - 2 warnings followed by a 2 hour mute, eventually extending to 12 hours, 24 hours, 72 hours, 168 hours, and eventually permanent if done multiple times. Includes advertising, caps, admin impersonation, foreign language, and asking for items.

    Insulting / Offensive Terms - 1 single warning, followed by a 24 hour ban and a 72 hour mute. If continued after the previous mute has ended, the target will be given a permanent mute. Includes threats.

    Admin Obstruction - 1 warning, followed by a 3 hour ban if player reveals name when unnecessary. A week long ban (7 days) occurs if done again.

    Avoiding Punishment - A ban of 72 hours will be given if on a different nickname or IP address. The target will be banned for 168 hours if done again, and a permanent ban if done once more.

    Inappropriate Content / Sprays and Decals - 2 warnings followed by a 2 hour ban, eventually extending to 12 hours, 24 hours, 72 hours, 168 hours, and eventually permanent if done multiple times. Includes nicknames.

    Map Exploitation - 1 single warning, followed by a slay and a 24 hour ban. If continued after the previous ban has ended, the target will be given a permanent ban. Includes threats.

    Game Exploitation - Immediately slain without warning, followed by a 24 hour ban. If continued after the previous ban has ended, the target will be given a permanent ban.

    Hacked Client / Tools - Immediate ban, followed by final ban or decision by full administrator opinion or thought.

    Out of Context Call - 1 warning, followed by a 72 hour ban. A permanent ban to be finalized by an administrator will occur if done again.

    AFK / Idling - Ask the player if they aren't AFK and place a timebomb on them if they do not respond. After 2 rounds, the player is kicked. If done again or based on severity, the player will be banned for 2 hours, 12 hours, 24 hours, 72 hours, 168 hours, and eventually permanent.

    Camping / Stalling - 2 warnings, followed by a timebomb on them if they do not respond. If done again or based on severity, the player will be banned for 2 hours, 12 hours, 24 hours, 72 hours, 168 hours, and eventually permanent.

    Teaming / Stalling - 1 warning, followed by a timebomb. If player continues to team through other rounds, a 1 hour ban will follow. 1 extra ban hour will be added if the player continues to team.

    Ghosting - 2 warnings, followed by a 2 hour mute. If done again, the mute will lead to 2 hours, 12 hours, 24 hours, 72 hours, 168 hours, and eventually permanent.

    All punishments and policies are listed above in the spoiler.
     
  7. Nim-os

    Nim-os Trial Gameserver Admin
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    After thinking about it a lot, I've decided to give a -1.
    The most outstanding reason for this is you aren't enforcing the rules often enough. I mentioned this in my previous comment, but I've come to notice that you enforce less than I thought initially.
    Another reason is that it seemed as if you didn't fully read through my comment, but this wasn't as influential as the previous reason.

    Regardless, good luck.
     
  8. Left 4 Zelda

    Left 4 Zelda Gameserver Admin
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    I'll have to agree with the not enforcing enough, it looks as if you're enforcing less than before. You also don't seem to take criticism well. I've also had complaints about your attitude on the server, making it seem like you just want the power of being admin more than actually just wanting to help out with the server. I still haven't played with you enough to see for myself, but based on the little I have seen along with Nim's opinion & the opinions of other trusted regulars on the server, I'll have to change my vote to a -1.
    Good luck, we still need @Baka@Baka to comment.
     
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  9. Gunslinger_

    Gunslinger_ New Member

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    Thanks for the heads-up. I'll work on pushing my focus towards enforcing rules more and lightening the attitude.
     
  10. Baka

    Baka Gameserver Admin
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    Unfortunately I have not played enough with the applicant to give a fair rating, for now i will be Neutral. Good luck though and i hope to see you more in-game.
     
  11. Luigi123

    Luigi123 Gameserver Admin
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    Steam:
    Just letting you know that your app is under review.
     
  12. Kevin

    Kevin Founder
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    Steam:
    going to decline this due to the feedback recieved from other admins aswell a bit messed up admin app.

    try again in a month and chances are better.

    21.05.2018
     
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