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Declined Administrator Application from adam.

Discussion in 'Archived Applications' started by Jax, Jun 3, 2018.

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  1. Jax

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    - Your name and/or nickname
    My name is Adam, and I have no main nicknames at the moment.

    - Your age
    I am currently 12 and a half years old of age, turning 13 in the 18th of September.
    My Forum account states that I am 21 years old but I am in fact not because when I have created the account, I made some of my information false for privacy, but as of now, I have no problem sharing that kind of information.
    I have contacted Kevin through his profile, asking him to change my birthdate.

    - Who gave you permission to apply?
    I was given permission to make an administrator application by FANTHOM, however, I have tried contacting iceviet about giving me permission to apply but the first time I was not given permission due to my playtime not meeting the minimum requirement, but when I met the minimum requirement, I tried contacting iceviet, but he was offline for quite a while so I decided to try and take permission from FANTHOM, and I have taken permission from him.

    - Your Steam32 ID
    STEAM_0:1:121310701

    - Your general online times and your timezone
    I am online usually the whole day, from morning (11 AM or 12 PM) until a late time. (1 AM or 2 AM), and my timezone is GMT+2.

    - Which of our servers do you usually play on and wish to apply for? Would you visit a broader range of servers in case of a report?
    I usually play on Versus Saxton Hale #05 and Freak Fortress 2 #13, however, I wish to apply on Versus Saxton Hale #05, as I am usually active and enjoy playing in it, and I have absolutely no problem taking care of reports, and I will try finishing off most of the reports.

    - Do you have a microphone? (This is a minimum requirement for Jailbreak admins)
    Yes, I do have a microphone, and my voice does not sound high-pitched.

    - Your previous experience as Admin or Moderator
    I have previously been an administrator in a community known as Flux.tf, and have been administrating the Europe Jailbreak server, however, I have decided to resign from it as my activity has decreased so much and was mainly tired from administrating Jailbreak and didn't have the fun I used to have, I have administrated Flux.tf for a long time, and have been an administrator in the community for 11 months and 26 days.

    - Do you have experience with administrating with SourceMod?
    I definitely do have experience with SourceMod, and I know the commands from my prior experience from being an administrator in Flux.tf.

    - Why should we choose you to be part of our team?
    I believe that I should be chosen to be a part of the administrative team as I am very approachable, easy-going, and helpful.
    Out of my personality, there are quite sometimes where there are no administrators on in the server and I see a rule-breaker when I am online, of course, I tell them to stop but some of them don't listen, then an administrator comes before I could report to them the incident.
    I am also very active, and free most of the time, so, my aim is to use that free time and administrate one of my most favorite servers in Panda Community.

    - Finally, please briefly explain how you would do your job, e.g. a general overview of your policies and punishments.

    GENERAL PUNISHMENTS:
    When the mute or gag expires, and the player breaks any rule concerning communication, the period will increase by 60 minutes, as an example:
    A mute or gag has been issued for 30 minutes, next time that the player will break a rule concerning communication, they will be sanctioned for the period of 90 minutes. (the second mute or gag and vice versa), this does not apply to bans, bans have higher durations.

    Communication:


    Raging or getting angry: Telling the player to calm down (as in warning), if the player does not stop, a mute (if they were raging through the microphone) or a gag (if they were raging through text chat) will be issued for the period of 60 minutes.
    Disrespect to players or administrators: A warning will be told to the player, if the player still does not stop, a mute or gag will be issued for the period of 60 minutes.
    Racism: Instant gag or mute for a period of 180 minutes
    Administrator Impersonation: Warning the player to stop, if they continue, a gag or mute will be issued with the time of 60 minutes
    Advertisement: Warning the player to stop, if they still continue advertising, a mute or gag will be issued with the duration of 120 minutes
    Spamming in the chat: A warning will be told to the player, if they continue, a gag will be issued with the duration of 30 minutes.
    Spamming through the microphone: A warning will be told to the player, and if they continue, a mute will be issued with the duration of 30 minutes.
    Speaking a foreign language through text chat or voice microphone: Warning the player in the same language they are talking in using Google Translate just in case they do not understand English, otherwise, the warning would be nothing to them, if they still continue, they will be muted or gagged with the period of 30 minutes.
    Ghosting (if there is a huge amount of players still alive): A warning will be told to the player, and if they still continue, 30 minutes gag or mute.
    Asking for free items in an unacceptable way: A warning to the player at first, and then if they continue asking for items, they will be gagged or muted for 30 minutes.

    Playing in a strictly forbidden way:
    Hacking: Recording a demonstration of the hacker, and making sure that I have their SteamID, and then when I have gathered up enough evidence that the player is hacking, I will instantly ban them permanently.
    Exploiting: Warning the player not to exploit, if they still continue, a ban of 240 minutes will be issued.

    VERSUS SAXTON HALE PUNISHMENTS:

    AFK members in the RED team: A few slaps to make sure they actually aren't AFK (this can be considered as a warning), and if they do not respond, they will be kicked, if the player repeats the action a lot of times, they will be banned for a day.
    Teaming: A warning will be told to the players that are teaming, if they do not stop teaming with each other, they will be slain, the second time that happens, it will be a kick, third time, a ban for 180 minutes will be sanctioned.
    When a player is hale, they kill themselves as hale: A kick will be done to the player as a warning, the second time it happens, they will be kicked again, third time, a ban for two hours will be issued to the player.
    Camping Hale: A warning will be told the Hale via /csay, if they continue camping, they will be slain, the second time that happens, they will be kicked, third time, a ban for 90 minutes.

    A few links:
    Steam Profile Link: https://steamcommunity.com/id/adamflux
    SteamREP: https://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198202887131
    SourceBan: https://bans.panda-community.com/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:1:121310701&Submit=Search (Bans)
    https://bans.panda-community.com/index.php?p=commslist&searchText= STEAM_0:1:121310701&Submit=Search (Communication Blocks).

    Explanation of the bans and communication blocks all in one:
    Basically, I am sure that most of the administrators will ask for this kind of thing, so, I'll just answer the questions here, my bans and communications were issued when I had immature behavior, and little knowledge about the rules.
    My last gag was originally temporary but when Drexils used to be an administrator, the gag was edited into permanent, then, I just thought to myself, that he wouldn't have edited the gag into permanent without any reason, it's definitely because I was quite childish.
    As time passed by, which are about 4 months I think, I've taken that kind of time and matured a lot from my last gag and created an appeal, my appeal was accepted, and I stated in the appeal that if I get gagged again, it will be permanent and it cannot be appealed for.

    And again, when my appeal was accepted, I took some time again and matured to make sure I don't get gagged again, and thanks to that time, I didn't get gagged again.

    Now, I feel matured enough to handle an administrator position, hence why I created this application.

    This is my application, and if any administrators have any questions to ask, feel free to do so and do not hesitate, I love feedbacks because they teach me how to improve on things I've done wrong.
     
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  2. Matth

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    I did not expect it at all, Adam. Interesting Saturday/Sunday night suddenly.
    Well, here is my personal review:
    1. What a well-written and enjoyable application. Among the best ones I've ever read. You took your time to write it, that's always appreciated.
    2. The application seems to satisfy all requirements.
      - About playtime, he has more than 3 days. https://gameme.panda-community.com/playerinfo/1728572
      - About punishments, his last one was in 2016 (for both bans and commbans).
    3. The user is a friendly regular on VSH server. His chatlogs and mic-chat are very clean, he always uses to warn rulebreakers about their mistakes and has a generally good attitude, helping admins as well. He's way more mature than most of his peers. I even ignored he wasn't 13 yet, that's impressive for his age to be mature like this.
    4. I know this user from 2015, since I had problems with him when I was Admin here 3 years ago. Sourceban reminded me of the shit he used to do, included a permaban for ALT account for which he apologised on the forums and got unbanned. When we re-met recently on Steam, I was like "Oh dude, see who's back from hell!" :D
      The point is: 3 years ago he was.. aged 10? He was naturally a kid (what could have you expected from a 10 y-o kid?). Nowadays he should be a kid, as well. But he's kinda mature for his age as I said above.
      Actually, even if he is one of the users I like best on VSH server, his age may be a problem with the stress that administrating can give. But he said he has been admin already for another community.. and for Jailbreak! --> He should be mentally (in)sane enough for the admin responsibilities in VSH.
    5. Biggest doubt: we already have 5 admins for VSH. Do we really need a 6th one?
      A guy helping out is always good, still maybe not that needed (considering that other servers would need more admins, according to complaints I sometimes read). But I am nobody to say what's wrong and what's right.
    6. Littlest doubt: maybe he's too "friendly" (still, it's normal for his age) and this may cause problems with being taken seriously by others. I don't really know how administrating that JB server was (when I did, screw me: why did I use to administrate JB tho?, there were plenty of kids for majority).
      But in our VSH server we use to have generally adults/17+ as regular users, not many kids. And I don't really know if a 13 y-o can handle the jokes or the pressure that an elder user can give, more than a young kid for sure. But I suppose it's what the Trial period is meant for.
    Finally: For me it's a +0.5 (positive considering the first 3 points, still I wanna read other admins' opinions because of the last 2 points in doubt for me).

    Have good luck, Adam. :)
     
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  3. Jax

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    Hello Matth! Thank you for your time writing the review, I greatly appreciate it and I would like to tell you about some things.
    I am indeed quite friendly on the VSH server, but when it comes to administrating, I am very serious with that.
    Basically, in Jailbreak, it's basically hell, but I was still quite friendly, yes. But when someone is breaking the rules, I punish them with the appropriate punishment I could give out.

    I have experienced, oh dear, lots of offensive jokes when I was an administrator in Jailbreak, but I just took them lightly because it's the internet, I don't cry anymore over things that "offended" me.

    I assure you that I am 99% capable of handling an administrator position, especially in VSH.
    And I know that 6 administrators handling out VSH is a little bit too much, but I only applied because I am literally online like all the time. (that's until school comes.)

    Thank you for wishing me a good luck nonetheless, I very much appreciate it.
     
  4. Jax

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    Hello everyone once again!
    I just wanted to give a bit of clarification to the other community I have mentioned:
    I have closed down with the community, and I have decided that I am not coming back to it, I still talk with some friends from the community over in Discord, that's it really.

    Panda Community has always been one of my most favorite communities, and a long time ago when I joined, I enjoyed playing it and still do enjoy playing in it, it can be said that I love Panda Community since it is the first community I have ever joined and that I enjoy it so much, and I hope to never leave it again.

    And Kevin, to be honest, thank you for the great community, as I enjoy playing in it and I enjoy the players that keep me hospitalized in it.
     
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  5. Le Captain Pootis

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    Hello there, Adam.

    I'd like to start out with say, I haven't been playing that much with Adam, although the few times I have played with him, I was positively surprised. Considering his age, he is very mature. Rarely have I seen a kid at this age, act more mature than myself ( :') )
    Now, I'm not gonna repeat everything Matth said because I agree with all of it, but to sum my view up:

    Positives:
    - Adam is very mature
    - Has a clean chatlog & acts mature on voicechat
    - A tremendous application, very well written, and easy to read

    Negatives:
    - Has been gagged 7 times in total, which is more than I'd like (Although having quite the admin record doesn't hold you back @Magglet@Magglet :) )
    - VSH isn't that much in need of admins, considering we have 5 admins already
    - You only have about 17 logged entries in your sessions, since July 2017

    With all of this being said, I'd like to remain neutral from now. I need to see Adam more on the server so I can observe him. And I'd also like to see him getting more logged session entries.
     
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  6. Magglet

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    Thanks for that @Le Captain Pootis@Le Captain Pootis

    I probably have the most experience with Adam directly as a player of vsh. Overall I have had a fairly positive experience in which you show levels of maturity so far. However this application seems a little preemptive in my opinion. Yes you do have the play time and the initial qualifications to apply. You only have 13 sessions this year. And I’ve seen you but I cannot pass proper judgement as if you yet.

    I believe you have asked about admin positions to me a lot and such, I was expecting you to apply in months to come when the vsh community knows you well.

    As well as this I do agree with Matth that your lack of age or “life experience” that teenage and adult life brings you may find it difficult to complete your job properly, earning player respect and authority at that age is even more difficult.

    For now I’m gonna give you a neutral vote. You aren’t a bad candidate at all but I need to see you more of you as applying after 13 sessions total this year seems fairly lacking in game time and experience needed for admin positions.
     
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    Hello Captain Pootis and Magglet!
    Thank you both for your time writing your reviews, I appreciate it, and I will try to improve on connecting on the server more regularly, I've once checked my gameME sessions in VSH, and saw that I sit playing VSH for quite some time.
    I actually used to have a higher playtime and login sessions when I've been absent from Panda for quite a while due to school and other stuff.
    I don't really know why it reset, to be honest, but for now, I'll try to improve.

    I'm quite sorry but I'd like to quote you a bit on these parts, Magglet:
    In my case, there are lots of things that hit me horribly, but for some reason, I got over it in kind of a short time, it sounds like some lie but it's pretty true.
    My age is lacking, I agree, but, I am pretty sure that I can handle an administrator position, especially for VSH, and if I do ever get that position, I plan to head into the VSH server and administrate the server for a long time continuously, hopefully.
    In case you haven't noticed, it's fine, but I've got plenty of experience in handling an administrator position as stated in my application, I have been an admin for Europe Jailbreak for a long time.

    However, still, thank you both so much for taking your time writing the reviews, and pointing out that I'll need to improve my login sessions.

    Have a nice day!
     
  8. Roar

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    Hey Adam,

    Your application is very well written considering your age - with the way I've seen you acting on the server too I don't think your age needs to be considered. You are a very positive and mature player, enforcing rules and always being friendly with the other players which is really great to see. It's good to have you back on the server regularly, and your sessions are looking pretty good - lots of 4+ hours. Your previous experience is great to have also.

    I'm willing to look past your previous commblocks as they were a long time ago, however as the most recent wave of admin applications included 3 new trials for VSH, the server seems to be pretty well-stocked with admins right now. So for that reason I'm going to stay NEUTRAL and let others have the final say.

    Thanks and good luck!
     
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    Hello Roar!
    Thanks for your time writing your review, I appreciate it greatly.
     
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    I have a question for you Adam. You have holiday now which makes you online all the time pretty much, but when school starts again, what will happend then? Will we see inactivity from your side? If that happends, please tell me what times you think you can play when school starts again.

    When I look at your GameMe, you barely have 3 days of playtime. I know this is within the recuirements so I can't "take" you on that, but I would wish to see more tbh. You also started to play again on VSH 15.05.2018, so I have not seen you that much yet. However, your sessions are amazing so far!

    Now to what I know about you so far:

    You recently started to play again and you are starting to become a regular. When I looked at your age I thought "what the fuck?". You are so mature, and only 12 years old. I know some people dislikes young admins because they are unable to handle stuff, but I have no doubts about you. Your age is not a problem. You sound like a 19 year old when talking in mic aswell.

    The people above have pretty much said everything worth mentioning.

    So for my decission. I am staying neutral for now Adam. I would like to see more of you first and I want to see the playtime rise, which wont be a problem with those sessions. And answer my questions on top aswell. If we do all that, I might change my opinion.

    Good luck Adam!
     
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    Hello PNN!
    Thank you so much for taking your time writing the review, it is very appreciated.

    In answering your question, when school starts, I will be definitely online on Thursday, and maybe on Friday and Saturday.
    If I feel however that my activity has decreased, I will resign and when I'm done with school again, I'll re-apply, hopefully.
    I really don't like having an administrator position and just leaving it like this not doing anything, that'll seem pretty unresponsible of me.

    And I just wanted to quote you on something, if that's okay with you:
    I'm pretty sure the last time I've checked my gameME, it was above 3 days, hence why I applied.
    And I'm also trying to get my playtime raised up as best as I could, this isn't the first time I've played VSH, to be honest with you, I've played VSH sometimes when I was free.

    But, however, thank you for your time giving me the feedback, I appreciate it.
    Same goes for all the administrators that have given the reviews to this application, even if their feedback includes that I'll need to improve my sessions and etc., I still have no problem with that and I appreciate your concern.

    Have a nice day!
     
  12. Le Captain Pootis

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    So you're only gonna be able to play 1, perhaps 2 or 3 days of the week? That could become a problem, imo.

    I think what PNN meant was, that it kind of seems like you played exactly 3 days just to reach the requirement to apply. Not that there's anything wrong with that, but it could suggest that if you become admin, your sessions could decrease drastically. Just speculation.
     
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    Basically, to sum it all up, whenever I'm free, I'll get online, but if I feel like my activity has decreased a lot, I'd look irresponsible, so, I'd preferably resign at that time, so, I'm not exactly sure if I'm going to be active.
    However, I'm going to be online at the time of holidays almost every day, and I also have 3 and a half months of holidays left, so that's a lot.
    No no no, if I become a part of the administrative team, my activity definitely won't decrease at the time of holidays, I assure you that.
    Besides, I enjoy VSH, if I become an administrator, I'm basically still a player but with more powers given, I still have the right to play, so, I'm just saying, I'd definitely not be inactive if I ever get the administrator position.

    Thanks for asking, though! :D
     
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    I am changing my vote to -1.

    Reason:

    After watching the applicant more, I don't think this is the right time for him to apply here. I think he should get more playtime on the server and get to know the rules more. For example not suiciding as hale. We also have many VSH admins now so I don't think it's needed atm.
     
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    Thanks for your feedback!
    I'll try to get more playtime, and I won't suicide as hale again, sorry for inconvenience.
     
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    Hello everyone, I hope you're having a great day!

    I was just reading my application and I wanted to correct some of the mistakes, add some new punishments that I've missed, and that's it.
    also some updates about what I've been doing in VSH in the past days maybe if that's okay?

    GRAMMAR MISTAKE(S):
    It kinda seems very minor to point out but I like perfect, so:

    NEW PUNISHMENTS:

    Profile related punishments:

    Administrative Impersonation: A warning will be told to the impersonator, failure to comply will result in a kick, if the player comes back and does not tend to change his name to something else that does not include an administrator's name or [Admin] tag, they will be sanctioned with the ban of 340 minutes will be issued.
    Having a name that is deemed to be offensive: One warning to the player, if they still tend to keep the name, another warning will be told but via a kick, coming back with the same name will result in a ban of 120 minutes.
    Inappropriate Sprays: Kicking the player as a warning to change the spray, if they come back with the same spray, they will be spray banned instantly with no more warnings.


    Rules of Play:

    Abuse of the !call command: Instant 120 minutes ban.
    Scamming: Instant 14400 minutes ban. (I do not know if this is an instant permanent ban or not, yes, I have looked into scammer reports but did not find a punishment to the user, unfortunately.)
    Threaten of the Panda Community Staff Members: Instant permanent ban, all appeals by the threatening user shall be declined.


    UPDATES:

    So, the updates are not that major, but I'd like to point out the things I've improved on:

    Playtime has started to rise gradually, as well as the number of connects. (I have not left and joined the server constantly to get the number of the connects raised up, they're all genuine.)
    I have not suicided again since the time PNN has given me feedback about suiciding as hale. (and also won't suicide again.)

    GameME Profile

    To be honest, I want to give a huge thank you to the administrators that have given me feedback.

    Have a great day everyone!
     
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    Unfortunately, this user has received a gag, after repeated warnings to not ghost over the microphone. He then chose to do it in chat.

    Gag information here
     
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    This is also his 8th gag, after already being unbanned after appealing a previous permanent punishment. I went over the situation with Magglet and PNN, and I'm left in the middle. I myself am not one-hundred percent sure if the gag is fully justified, discussing that here however isn't good, this should be assessed in an appeal thread. I'm going to have put this on hold whilst we figure stuff out on Adams own appeal.
     
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    App may move forward once more
     
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