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Currently gamble has accusations on him of being weird towards a minor, someone that he interacted with quite a bit on panda as well as in private. The screenshots below show a few moments of gamble (18 at the time) being very suggestive with Tuli (15 at the time), as well as showing some concerning messages he has sent regarding inappropriate conversations surrounding children. Having someone who behaves like this around minors in a community that has a fairly high number of them is not a good thing, and if these screenshots aren't enough Tuli should be able to answer any questions regarding this whole situation on this thread. Thank you for your consideration.

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There were some questions floating around in the shoutbox about the legitimacy of the screenshots, so I had Tuli scroll through one of the conversations from the screenshots, and include both the 4 digits in gamble's discord tag, as well as showing him as a mutual in a discord community that gamble owns called "The Head Mafia", if needed I can get other information that may add to the legitimacy of the screenshots, and of this video.
 
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Another reply with another bit of found evidence, this is a demo of a group of people confronting gamble on the panda server about these claims above. It can be hard to hear at times because a lot of people are speaking at once, but after about the 4 minute 30 second mark is when I noted him saying some weird things. One exchange in particular was him stating something along the lines of "You guys are saying that I'm into little kids" myself saying "You said this shit yourself" and him responding back "Well do you want me to lie", which I personally find weird, but I'll leave the demo up to interpretation, fair warning it's a bit long.
 

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if this doesnt gappen on panda related servers we cant help.
i assume those discord screens are dms?
 
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Ye its outside from Panda i think, reporting ppl that done despised things cannot get punished when it didnt happen in Panda so eh.
You cannot punish ppl when they havent broke any rules
At this point u can report him on Discord
 
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Ye its outside from Panda i think
Out of curiosity are you guys okay with a pedophile finding kids on panda and grooming them OUTSIDE of panda?
This isn’t the same as saying racial slurs or breaking another rule it’s about protecting the majority of the player base.
 
Out of curiosity are you guys okay with a pedophile finding kids on panda and grooming them OUTSIDE of panda?
This isn’t the same as saying racial slurs or breaking another rule it’s about protecting the majority of the player base.
either way we're not his parents and infact playing tf2 or similar at the age of 15 is clearly a parents failure.
dont understand me wrong we dont support any kind of behaviour like that nor do we tollerate it on panda but like i said if it doesnt happen on our platform we cannot do anything about it.

the fact that chatlogs etc. are being spreaded wildly in the public isnt such a clever idea either and may just cause more backfire than necessary.

just unsure what you want us to do with him? i've quickly overlooked his chatlogs and cannot see any big "insults" or similar?

also another thing i dont understand is why is tuli even going into that what he writes? lol
isnt it like common sense if you dont like something you dont continue on it further?
 
also another thing i dont understand is why is tuli even going into that what he writes? lol
isnt it like common sense if you dont like something you dont continue on it further?
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seems like tuli was fishing (this is in one of the pictures)
 
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I typed up something this morning but it appears it is possibly outdated due to the conversation here now.


This isn't the first time gamble has been reported for inappropriate chat towards the underage. However, although not clear in the report, it turned out that Zen (the reporter) purposely pretended to be gamble in order to get them into trouble. Zen messed up by showing the chatlog through them logged in via this fake gamble account. Was an amazing breakthrough caught by @Gold at the time as we where trying to find proof that it was linked to the steam account playing on panda. We where considering it a possibility of taking it seriously even though it was off panda but turns out we never needed to consider it.

Now there's this new report, 1 year later same issue. I think however this time it is Gamble but he is being tricked into looking as bad as it is. If you actually look at the shift in behaviour from tuli private or public you see tuli was purposely leading the conversation to nudes to get gamble to agree.
But I've noticed that new piece of evidence with the video. I can finally see more of the chat. Gamble askes for tuli's age. Interesting...
Also to note one of the screenshots is missing that I was previously shown on discord. Something about tuli showing porn to gamble? I'll try to fish that up if I can later this evening unless I'm misunderstood.

But let's move onto how it effects panda as of right now rather than what's happened off panda.
I see there is a demo uploaded and again I'll have to see it later this evening but I decided to look up the chatlog and well what's most interesting is tuli.
For someone who is a 'victim' to this they are provoking the situation more than it needs to be. They've named themselves 'gamble.boys1 girlfriend' 'gamble.boys1 groomed me''gamble.boys1 grooming victim' which particularly makes me think this is nothing but a joke to them.
Also check out that chatlog YIKES

On the terms of gamble...gamble is provoking but in terms of 'trashtalk'. I have yet to see a reference about this in his chat log but if anybody catches something let me know.

Overall something about all this gives me the same vibes the first report about this happened. I can't help but feel this is set up. Like it's not actually about gamble's saying bad things to a kid but to get rid of him purely because they don't like playing with him on US trade.

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My response may come off as defending gamble but it was not my intention. My intention is to show both sides and what I'm currently thinking. I'm willing to be challenged on my points as I have done the same to this report. Also I feel like I'm missing something.
For example it's strange that this has happened to the same person. If that is Gamble, what he's saying to the 15 year old (now 16) is inappropriate he should consider the way he communicates with younger people better. The part that was most alarming was the dating message. However it is off panda community...

What would be good is to confirm that it is gamble and for gamble to explain what the heck is going on. But I might be asking too much over something could possibly not be considered.
 
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I typed up something this morning but it appears it is possibly outdated due to the conversation here now.


This isn't the first time gamble has been reported for inappropriate chat towards the underage. However, although not clear in the report, it turned out that Zen (the reporter) purposely pretended to be gamble in order to get them into trouble. Zen messed up by showing the chatlog through them logged in via this fake gamble account. Was an amazing breakthrough caught by @Gold at the time as we where trying to find proof that it was linked to the steam account playing on panda. We where considering it a possibility of taking it seriously even though it was off panda but turns out we never needed to consider it.

Now there's this new report, 1 year later same issue. I think however this time it is Gamble but he is being tricked into looking as bad as it is. If you actually look at the shift in behaviour from tuli private or public you see tuli was purposely leading the conversation to nudes to get gamble to agree.
But I've noticed that new piece of evidence with the video. I can finally see more of the chat. Gamble askes for tuli's age. Interesting...
Also to note one of the screenshots is missing that I was previously shown on discord. Something about tuli showing porn to gamble? I'll try to fish that up if I can later this evening unless I'm misunderstood.

But let's move onto how it effects panda as of right now rather than what's happened off panda.
I see there is a demo uploaded and again I'll have to see it later this evening but I decided to look up the chatlog and well what's most interesting is tuli.
For someone who is a 'victim' to this they are provoking the situation more than it needs to be. They've named themselves 'gamble.boys1 girlfriend' 'gamble.boys1 groomed me''gamble.boys1 grooming victim' which particularly makes me think this is nothing but a joke to them.
Also check out that chatlog YIKES

On the terms of gamble...gamble is provoking but in terms of 'trashtalk'. I have yet to see a reference aout this in his chat log but if anyobdy catches something let me know.

Overall something about all this gives me the same vibes the first report about this happened. I can't help but feel this is set up. Like it's not actually about gamble's saying bad things to a kid but to get rid of him purely because they don't like playing with him on US trade.
what a disgusting chatlog and also nice cheat advertising lmao
 
Okay so, of course we are not supporting such behaviour but again we cant do anything about it as long they havent done anything bad inside Panda, i dont even know why Tilu was going along with that Conversation? Just to fish that person?? Their acting aint better either, would've been better to block the Person and report them on Discord with the Evidences of his Behavior instead of acting along and trying to fish them.
And maybe threat the person with a Report on Discord to stop such Behavior towards Kids
 
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I understand the suspicions given the history that people have with Gamble but I can assure you I've brought this up for no reason other than to keep kids safe. I didn't interact with most of the people that have a history with Gamble until after these accusations came up because I was warned for the sake of my own community, and while I can understand the hesitation personally I have no reason to believe that I've been lied to. I also know that the conversation from the video that I posted in these replies was a real one with the actual Gamble because he himself talked about it on panda on the day that demo I sent was recorded, but it was before anything was recorded, because it was the incident that made us realize we needed to get proof. And while I understand that panda in general does not take outside sources as reasons for bans, I also simply cannot understand the mindset behind not wanting to get a person that speaks in this way to minors out of a community that has such a high volume of them, whether he was baited or not. I agree that Tuli's name changes weren't the best call and I have told him such, because it makes this all seem like a joke, but he's a kid, kids make dumb choices, that's why community leaders need to take steps to keep them safe. Also personally I believe that, baited or not, an adult should never be sharing anything along the lines of their dick size, underwear they find sexually appealing, or questions regarding intimate parts of the body with a minor, being baited into it while knowing they're a minor doesn't excuse it.

Ultimately I know that this decision is not mine to make, but these are my thoughts on it. I never had personal issue with Gamble before seeing these screenshots, hearing from another person who had an experience with him who does not wish to share their story, and hearing him confirm some of it out of his own mouth. I don't go around trying to get people kicked off of servers for fun or for petty drama. I want to keep kids safe in these communities, that is my only goal, and that is all I wanted to get done with this report. Thank you all for your feedback and your hard work, genuinely.
 
Probably my last addition to this, but Gamble posted a video of his full chat logs with Tuli himself, proving that the video that I shared earlier was real

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I will point out that Tuli does say some weird shit in these logs, but I do not believe that this is an excuse for him to be spoken to in a sexual manner by someone over the age of 18
 
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isnt tf2 FSK 18?
either way i'm closing this retarded shit imo tuli should be banned due to his really disgusting chatlog on our servers.
like i said anything that happens outside of panda isnt our part.
 
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