Declined New trade rule (1 Viewer)

[Magglet]

Hello there,

Due to trade being incredibly "try hard zone" with alot of people just going have fun. We have alot of sniper duels going on with many of our memebers across spawn. I would like to recipricate the rule from duel in which we do not allow medics to overheal snipers within spawn. Many snipers wish to duel without a medic pocketing them or there opponent to make a fair and balanced fight. I have had to deal with other players harassing snipers with medic even though the sniper themselves has asked them to stop. It just seems like a simple solution.


Would love to hear your opinions trade admins.

@Zeprus @Da Random @alperrt @Racer911-1

 

[Zeprus]

I disagree for a couple of reasons:

• It is not actually a respawn zone as in you cannot change classes without dying. That makes strategies like shooting and then pressing a class change bind impossible.
• On duel there are transparent doors that allow to line up fully charged shots without an issue, or any danger, and fire as soon as the door opens with the door most likely closing again rather quickly. Having a sniper overhealed there makes them very hard to kill, not only for enemy snipers but for everybody else as well.
• If someone doesn't want to get overhealed they can easily equip the razorback, now you might argue that not everyone owns it but it can be obtained incredibly quickly. Either by trading another player or using services like scrap.tf. This is a trade server after all so I think it's fair to assume that everyone should be able to trade on it. Not to mention that people who aren't able to trade and don't own the razorback most likely don't care about the issue anyways. On the contrary these people might even be glad to have someone help them out in a sniper fight.

 

[Magglet]

Thank you for the response

However, do you not think that even if another user doesn't mind being pocketed. It is incredibly aggrevating to get killed by a medic pocketed sniper, it feels like the old danger shield is back and if they are using the vaccinator it is near impossible.

 

[Zeprus]

However, do you not think that even if another user doesn't mind being pocketed. It is incredibly aggrevating to get killed by a medic pocketed sniper, it feels like the old danger shield is back and if they are using the vaccinator it is near impossible.

It may be somewhat unfair but so are any 2v1s, especially if one of the players is a medic. You cannot win a mirror match if your opponent has a medic on him, no matter the class. That's what medics do. If the medic would be a soldier spamming you with rockets instead your winning chances would be comparably low. If you were to add another player into the equation, even if it's not a medic, it becomes much more balanced. Imagine sniping against a sniper that has a medic heling him, but you also have a demoman spamming the enemy sniper with pills and stickies.

 

[Magglet]

I agree, but that doesn't take away from the fact that healing a snipers in general especially just in spawn is often made to piss off the opponents. It is unfair.

 

[Racer911-1]

same opinion with @Zeprus

 

[Da Random]

I personally don't believe we should enforce more rules to cater to the "try-hard" players. I agree with Zeprus on this one, the Trade server was never really a fully serious one. If people really want to try-hard then just join MGE or some other server.

 

[Magglet]

Cool cool, can someone close this thread please

 

[alperrt]

If one wants to tryhard and finds enjoyment in it, then be it. The other people may find their enjoyment in ruining your tryharding by pocketing their teammates. The server is not meant to be a sniper duel arena even if the map shape so suggests and as said by Lighty above, if these tryhards don't enjoy playing against vac pocketed snipers, there are servers where other people are trying their hardest as well.

Closed as requested btw