Invalid Spam Goose Admin Application for Freak Fortress 2 Texas! (1 Viewer)

[Spam Goose]

Member Name: Spam Goose XIII

What’s your name and/or nickname?

Connor in real life, but just call me Goose.

How old are you?

16

Who, if anyone, gave you permission to apply?

No one, since im over the age required.

What is your Steam ID 32?

STEAM_0:1:45139776

What are your general online times and your timezone?

Weekends (includes Friday): 3:00 -11:30 (Sundays till 9:30) PST, Weekdays: not usually on (school) but if I am, 4:00 - 9:00 PST Holidays/Breaks: 2:00 - 11:30 PST.

Which of our servers do you usually play on and wish to apply for?

FF2 Texas

Would you visit a broader range of servers in case of a report?

Yes, I am always happy to help out.

Do you have a microphone?

Yes and I use it frequently.

Do you have any previous experience as admin or moderator? (if so, tell us more about it)

I have no experience as admin or moderator.

Do you have experience with administrating with SourceMod?

No, but I would love to learn. I have always been interested in how it works and runs.

Why should we choose you to be part of our team?

When I first joined FF2 Texas, It was a very fun server full of nice people. 4 months later, the current users have gotten out of hand, and there is not always an admin to deal with them. There are a lot of rule breakers, rude people and more. 3 admins Is a good amount, but they can’t always be on, and when they aren’t, the rule breaking happens. I know I will be a valuable part of the team because I want this to be a great server again, I want to stop all the rule breaking and horrible attitude of the players. I know I have flaws (who doesn’t) but I know I can be helpful for the admins, the server, and panda.

Briefly explain how you'll do your duty as an admin? (tell us about your policies, punishments, etc.)

Spamming (includes chat and voice chat):

2 Warnings, if they persist, 1 hour mute or gag. If after gag/mute they continue, the length will rise (from another 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, 12 hours, 1 day, 3 days, 1 week, 1 month, perm gag)

Ghosting:

2 warnings, then a 1 hour mute or gag, continuation after mute/gag length will extend (same as spamming, another 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, 12 hours, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, perm gag)

Call Abuse:

1 warning, If done again, 1 hour ban. After initial ban, if they rejoin and continue, another 1 hour, 4 hours, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, perm

Camping (as a class that isn't allowed to camp):

3 Warnings, then slay. If they continue, kick, 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, perm

Insulting:

2 warnings, then 1 hour mute or gag. If the mute/gag expires and they continue again, 3 hour mute/gag, 6 hours, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, perma mute or gag

Teaming:

1 warning, then kick for the player causing the teaming, if they rejoin and continue, 1 hour, 4 hours, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, Perm

Exploiting:

(if I know the exploit) immediate slay, Continuation: kick, 1 hour, 6 hours, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, perm (If I do not know exploit but they look like they might be) I will ask other admins, and kick + bans will be same as above

Foreign Language:

2 warnings, then kick. Continuation: 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, perm gag

Hacking:

Immediate ban (as high as I can) until further notice (will get evidence first)

AFK:

Ask player in chat (or voice chat) if they are there, if not, kick. If they rejoin and become afk again, another kick, then 1 hour ban, 2 hours, 4 hours, 6 hours, 1 day.

Not Contributing:

3 warnings, then slay. After slay, if the continue to not contribute, kick, 1 hour ban, 2 hours, 5 hours, 12 hours, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, perm

Not Doing Damage:

(this applies only for classes that aren’t allowed to camp) 3 warnings, then slay. If they continue to not do damage, Another kick, 1 hour ban, 3 hours, 6 hours, 12 hours, 1day, 1 week

I would love other peoples thoughts on bans, gags and mute lengths, all help is appreciated if I can do better as admin!


Extra notes:

CHAT: https://gameme.panda-community.com/player_histories/chat/3632278 (I have fixed my use of !)

GAMEME: https://gameme.panda-community.com/playerinfo/3632278

SESSIONS: https://gameme.panda-community.com/player_histories/sessions/3632278


If anyone has any feedback, I would greatly appreciate it! I want to better myself so I can be someone the community can rely on. And thank you for looking over my Application and I hope you will consider adding me to the mod team!

 

[Left 4 Zelda]

I’ve seen Goose a lot but not enough yet to form a full opinion.

His chat looks good & he does enforce rules a lot. He also makes a lot of reports & uses the call system when there’s a problem (Although, he does make reports on the forums a lot without making calls first which is sort of annoying.)

Looking at the app, there’s a lot of mistakes in the punishments section that concern me.

Spoiler: Punishment Problems

First off, the 6th punishment is perm. Not the 8th or 9th. You’re giving way too many chances. Also, keep in mind that the severity of things count towards the punishment lengths.

As an example for the mute/gag lengths, try 1-2 hours, 4 hr, 12 hr, 1 day, 1 week, perm. (That’s just an example to show how ridiculous your lengths are, not the real thing for each punishment.)

“Not Contributing” & “Not doing damage” is under teaming.

For exploiting, slay & say what they did. If they continue, that’s a ban because then they’re just doing it on purpose.

For afk people, don’t kick the second round? Slay & then if they’re afk after like 3 rounds, kick. Afk rejoin is only if they join & immediately go afk again. That’s just a ban, no need for another kick.

You’re missing some things too, such as inappropriate sprays or offensive names/avatars. Also, what would you do if the person is avoiding punishment? (being muted or gagged & trying to communicate through name or other means)

I want to see punishment lengths fixed & the things I’ve mentioned added. Maybe go look at some of the current admins of FF2 TX’s applications & take notes.

REMEMBER, always go check player’s previous punishments & make sure you’re building them up. We don’t need you to punish someone for an hour when he’s already had a week’s worth of punishments (always search by steam ID, not name.)

Weekdays: not usually on (school) but if I am, 4:00 - 9:00 PST

We need admins that can try to be on every day, if you’re going to have to skip a whole week of activity due to school then there’s no point in becoming an admin.

I think there’s also a maturity thing that needs to handled that I’ve noticed by the way you talk to me & others.

After the applicant has fixed his punishments, I’ll give a different opinion.

I’m neutral for now.

 

[Left 4 Zelda]

Oh yeah, @Nim-os @Baka

 

[Spam Goose]

Sorry for the late responce!
About weekdays, Im usually on atleast once during the week, but I've been getting on more.
Here is updated Punishments:

Spoiler: Punishments

Spamming (includes chat and voice chat):

2 Warnings, if they persist, 1 hour mute or gag. If after gag/mute they continue, the length will rise (from another 1 hour, 4 hours, 12 hours, 1 day,1 week, perm gag)

Ghosting:

2 warnings, then a 1 hour mute or gag, continuation after mute/gag length will extend (same as spamming, another 1 hour, 6 hours, 12 hours, 1 day, 1 week, perm gag )

Call Abuse:

1 warning, If done again, 1 hour ban. After initial ban, if they rejoin and continue, another 1 hour, 4 hours, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, perm

Camping (as a class that isn't allowed to camp):

3 Warnings, then timebomb. If they continue, kick, 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, 1 day, 1 week, perm

Insulting:

2 warnings, then 1 hour mute or gag. If the mute/gag expires and they continue again, 4 hour mute/gag, 6 hours, 1 day, 1 week, perma mute or gag

Teaming/ Not doing Damage/ Not contributing:

1 warning, then kick, if they rejoin and continue, 1 hour, 4 hours, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, Perm

Exploiting:

(if I know the exploit) immediate slay and explain why they were slayed, Continuation: 1 week ban, 1 month, perm (If I do not know exploit but they look like they might be) I will ask other admins, and bans will be same as above

Foreign Language:

2 warnings, then kick. Continuation: 1 hour, 2 hours, 4 hours, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, perm gag

Hacking:

Immediate ban (as high as I can) until further notice (will get evidence first) and consult with full admin about the ban

AFK:

Ask player in chat (or voice chat) if they are there, if not, slay. After 3 rounds of being afk They will receive a kick. If they rejoin and become afk again,1 hour ban, then 2 hours, 4 hours, 6 hours, 1 day.

Inappropriate spray:

2 warnings, then if they don’t comply I’ll spray ban thmn (for how long I see fit)

Inappropriate name or avatar:

2 warnings, then kick, 1 hour ban, 4 hours, 6 hours, 1 day, 1 week, perm

Avoiding Punishment:

I will double the ban time or more depending how severe the rule broken was.

Camping as Hale:

1 warning, then toggle timebomb. If they keep doing it: 1 hour ban, 4 hours, 8 hours, 1 day, 1 week, perm

Admin Impersonation:

Will not be tolerated: perma ban

And about checking previous punishments, I plan to have a tab open to check previous punishments, and if I respond to a call, I'll have it already prepared
But thank you for your input and I hope you like the changes!
Also, thank you for telling me about how much bans there should be, I thought I was going easy with the 8 or 9 bans!

 

[Nim-os]

I know I have been waiting for some time for this from Goose. Glad to see it finally here!

I'll address the elephant in the room first, which is as Zelda mentioned, your activity and off hours. Generally, it would be best if you could be on the server as much as possible rather than just once a week. I understand that you probably have a school life to attend to, but this is quite a commitment and requires a lot of time as well as effort. Being on more often will definitely help my final opinion.

I was going to write a long paragraph about the punishments and such, but seeing as Zelda was on top of that already and you fixed it, I don't have as many comments on it. I'll be referring to your revisited punishments rather than your initial lengths and times, just to note.

Spoiler: Punishments

First off, I personally find that jump from 1 day to 1 week for a gag/mute/ban is quite large, I know Zelda is the one who suggested that in her comment but you might've taken it to heart just a bit too much.

Your Call Abuse punishments seem a bit off the wall here. Too short and too many. You might need to reread that bit in case, as you also left it as 7 punishments till perm instead of the usual 6. Call abuse though will generally have higher initial bans instead of just 1 hour.

Your initial camping punishment seems redundant, if you are going to timebomb them then there is no reason that you should kick them if they continue. If they do it again you can just slay them, and of course, if they continue even after the couple slays sprinkled here and there, then you can ban them.

Your exploiting punishments seem a bit on the harsh side, think about a day maybe instead of an instant week.

Foreign language, again, a kick isn't really needed. Just move straight to a gag/mute.

Regarding the teaming, instead of a kick you might want to consider a slay.

The AFK player punishments given seem a bit on the easygoing side of things. You are going from 1 hour to 4 hours, slow down at 6 hours, and then jump back up to a day. I would consider keeping it consistent rather than spiking it at random intervals.

I've never really considered spray banning someone, instead, I'd suggest increments like the majority of the punishments. You could also be basing the times on how severe the spray was.

Avoiding punishments is an iffy one, because you say you are doubling the ban time if they were to avoid punishment, but what if it was a gag or mute? Another thing to note is that instead of doubling it, you may want to consider a strict outline as to how long. I would personally think that starting out at 1 day to 3 days is good enough.

Your chat is indeed quite clean. One note is that you have used "Thot" (In my eyes, an insult) a few times recently, but I'm sure it was out of context. But other than that your use of "!" commands has definitely been eradicated, so that's a good sign of improvement.

Your sessions look fine from afar, but there are quite a few holes in them, gaps ranging from a day to almost a week. Another thing to note is that when you get on after some time of inactivity, you stay for a very minimal amount of time. The most severe instance of this is shown below.
You (Half) made up for it by getting on the day after for quite some time, but it still doesn't look too great on paper.
I touched up on this earlier in my comment, but I just wanted to look back on it.

An overall nice job with the app, very clean and tidy but it did have a few grammar mistakes here and there (Not that it makes much of a difference). The presentation otherwise was perfect!

I definitely played with you long enough to get to know you and how you handle certain situations, but I still think that there is a bit of room for improvement.

For now though I'll lean towards a green neutral, as I still want you to shape up with your activity and punishments. Good luck!

 

[Spam Goose]

thanks for the responce!
The reason for low times is because my game hates certain maps, and will crash said map is on and I try to connect (I believe its only 1 or 2 maps now, but I'm trying everything to fix the issue) but I am trying to get one more, and i can be on atleast 4 times a week, usually wednesday, friday, saturday and sunday. I have been trying to get on other days too, so expect to see me more.
Here are updated bans (I mostly kept 1 day, 1 week because if they haven't learned by 1 day banned, they need more time.)

Spamming (includes chat and voice chat):

2 Warnings, if they persist, 1 hour mute or gag. If after gag/mute they continue, the length will rise (from another 4 hour, 6 hours, 12 hours, 1 day, 1 week, perm gag)

Ghosting:

2 warnings, then a 1 hour mute or gag, continuation after mute/gag length will extend (same as spamming, another 1 hour, 6 hours, 12 hours, 1 day, 1 week, perm gag )

Call Abuse:

1 warning, If done again, 4 hour ban. After initial ban, if they rejoin and continue, 12 hours, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, perm

Camping (as a class that isn't allowed to camp):

3 Warnings, then timebomb. If they continue, 1 hour, 4 hours, 12 hours, 1 day, 1 week, perm

Insulting:

2 warnings, then 1 hour mute or gag. If the mute/gag expires and they continue again, 4 hour mute/gag, 6 hours, 1 day, 1 week, perma mute or gag

Teaming/ Not doing Damage/ Not contributing:

1 warning, then slay, if they rejoin and continue, 1 hour, 6 hours, 1 day, 1 week, 1 month, Perm

Exploiting:

(if I know the exploit) immediate slay and explain why they were slayed, Continuation: 1 day ban, 1 week, 1 month, perm (If I do not know exploit but they look like they might be) I will ask other admins, and bans will be same as above

Foreign Language:

2 warnings, then 30 minute gag/mute. Continuation: 2 hours, 6 hours, 12 hours, 1 day, 1 week, perm gag

Hacking:

Immediate ban (as high as I can) until further notice (will get evidence first) and consult with full admin about the ban

AFK:

Ask player in chat (or voice chat) if they are there, if not, slay. After 3 rounds of being afk They will receive a kick. If they rejoin and become afk again,1 hour ban, then 3 hours, 6 hours, 12 hours, 1 day.

Inappropriate spray:

2 warnings, then if they don’t comply I’ll spray ban them (for how long I see fit) example: too revealing: 1 day, naked top half: 1 week, full nudity: 1 month, porn: perm

Inappropriate name or avatar:

2 warnings, then kick, 1 hour ban, 4 hours, 6 hours, 1 day, 3 days, perm

Avoiding Punishment:

12 hours to 3 day increase on ban/mute/gag that was to be given, depending on the punishment.

Camping as Hale:

1 warning, then toggle timebomb. If they keep doing it: 1 hour ban, 4 hours, 8 hours, 1 day, 3 days, perm

Admin Impersonation:

Will not be tolerated: 1 week ban, 1 month, perm
Let me know if there is anything else that should be fixed!

 

[Spam Goose]

response* sorry about that

 

[Baka]

Application: Check.
Playtime: Check.
Punishments: Check. Though Admin Impersonation needs to be fixed a bit (aka tell them to change their name.)

Notes: As far as I'm aware, he is actively enforcing rules, which is really nice to see. He's asked me about questions he wasn't sure about, especially as far as rulings and asking if it is or isn't allowed. I'll give him a +1. Good luck on the application, Goose.

 

[Left 4 Zelda]

There's still a maturity issue that I mentioned earlier. I don't see him trying to fix it whenever I play with him. & If he can't be on more during the week besides weekends, there's really no reason to be admin.
I'm going to have to change my neutral to -1.
Good luck anyways.

 

[Nim-os]

Seeing that Baka and Zelda have made their final decisions, I shall also make mine.
The bottom line is that you are a great candidate for being an admin- You have charisma, good intent, and you are an active mic user (Which is a bonus in my eyes). However, despite this, you are a tad bit immature as Zelda had pointed out, letting your emotions influence your current state of mind.
There is also the issue with your hours and times that you are free, because sure you might be able to answer calls at most hours during the day, but the role of an admin is more than just shaping up rulebreakers. Because being in the server is also extremely important, as you are connecting with the community better, rather than just a few select days of the week. You did try and put in the effort to shape up, yes, by reading the comments and getting to them as fast as possible, but it was already too late in the race to change your hours and such.
So my "final" verdict is, unfortunately, a -1. Regardless, good luck

 

[Spam Goose]

Thank you for the responses!
I do understand your -1 Zelda and Nim, and I will try to fix the maturity issue, and I have been trying to get on more during weekdays, but I'll work on it to get on even more hours online during the week. But thank you all for looking at my admin app, and I'll try learn from what you have all said!

 

[Spam Goose]

I should had said this yesterday but I'll say it now. After seeing what Zelda and Nim said about hours the first time, I'm going to at least try to get on more during the week, it won't be the entire week, but I'll make sure to be on more during the week (going to try to be on Monday/Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday.) Also I will fix my maturity issue, because my emotions do get the better of me, but I'll work on that. But thanks for the support and criticism!

 

[Left 4 Zelda]

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