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BaconPlague

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SourceBans Ban URL: https://bans.panda-community.com/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=STEAM_0:0:44809162&Submit=Search
Name of your Banned Steam Account: Aku
Steam ID: STEAM_0:0:44809162
Date and Time of the Ban: about 7:50am CST - 12/8/2017
Reason about the Ban- Duplicate Account
Admin that Banned you: Console
Why should you receive a unban for the ban / gag / mute:
I joined the server to test if I would be able to connect to the server but since my brother still has a pending 2 week ban on the server, I was ip banned again for 4 weeks. My brother will make a separate post on this shortly.

My name at the time of the ban is aku
 
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and who is apparently your brother?
 
also as far as I know, nowhere in this list of rules does it say anything about the use of alt accounts https://www.panda-community.com/threads/gameserver-rules-06-04-2017.3409/

the only thing I see regarding alts is this rule:

f) Avoiding punishment

You're not allowed to avoid any form of punishment. Changing your IP address and/or creating new steam accounts to avoid your punishment is forbidden.

I did not use an alt account to avoid punishment. My brother tried to connect to the server after the ban and that's how he got banned. More information about my brother being an actual player is on his unban thread.
 
does anyone else have eyes on this? I feel like I'm serving a ban that shouldn't exactly be here in the first place. I'll try my best to respond to any questions and clarify anything that you guys might have regarding these bans.
 
For those who haven't seen my previous ban appeal, it can be seen here:

https://www.panda-community.com/threads/baconplague-the-funny-man-s-ban-appeal.15154/

For some context, I was originally permabanned for being a suspected hacker. My brother tried to connect to the server after my ban and he got himself banned for 2 weeks. I have uploaded two pieces of video evidence showing that he's indeed my brother and not an alt I used to circumvent the ban (which can be seen here: https://www.panda-community.com/threads/banned-for-same-ip.15216/). After I was unbanned from my original permaban, I tried to reconnect to the server and I got myself banned again for 4 weeks because of my brother's previous outgoing ip ban of 2 weeks. I don't understand why we're still banned even though the original ban (the ban that caused these two new bans to spawn) has been removed as of a couple days ago.
 
It's now been about a week since my latest ban has been issued, so I'm already a quarter of a way sitting though a ban that shouldn't really be here in the first place. For the past few days, we haven't really gotten any other admin input aside from your latest comment on my brother's ban appeal. We're trying to be as patient as we can but we're really confused on why we must wait any longer to be unbanned, especially because we don't see a valid reason why we should still wait to be unbanned. For the past few days, we've been monitoring other appeal related posts as well and they've gotten some responses from various admins who've been online. And since this is the weekend, lots of admins I expect should be online and active trying to handle anything on the forums.
 
Im going to make a bold guess as to why you haven't been unbanned yet, and that is that as shown by kevin, you connected with other accounts to the server, even though you were banned. 1 of them may be your brother, but the others are most likely yours or his. So by doing so you or your brother broke the avoiding punishment rule. Either that, or the admins or just lazy :^)
 
Rudolph- my alt
Tormund - my brother
Sailor Scout - me
jarbuckle0 - my alt

Rudolph and Jarbuckle0 are alts that I used to connect to the server prior to my ban. As you can see here: https://gameme.panda-community.com/player_histories/sessions/3779083 rudolph's last connection was on November 26, and my original ban took effect on December 3rd. Jarbuckle0's last connection (also seen here: https://gameme.panda-community.com/player_histories/sessions/3505719) was also on November 26th. As rule states, those who are banned cannot use alts to attempt to connect to the server after the ban has been made. The only connection that was made after my ban was my brother's (tormund), so that's why he was given a 2 week ban (which has expired by now https://bans.panda-community.com/index.php?p=banlist&searchText=jonarbuckle0&Submit=Search). So in short, those alts that Kevin listed are not alts I used to circumvent the ban. The only account that connected to the server after my original ban was my brother's. Also, the key thing is that this original ban doesn't exist anymore- I was originally banned for suspected hacking which has been proven false. So I don't know why these 2 week bans and 4 week bans should still even be in place.
 
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personally, I think i should be unbanned by an admin as soon as possible unless there's a solid reason why i should still be banned.
 
I mean, as unfortunate as the circumstances are, there’s not too much you can do to speed up the process. Yes, I do agree that a ban appeal shouldn’t take this long to be addressed, especially when you have a valid reason to be unbanned, but at the same time you were banned by console automatically, so it’s not like it’s up to a single admin to determine whether you should be unbanned or not. Probably the best thing to do right now is to wait and perhaps bump the thread occasionally to prevent it from being forgotten. I’m sorry bud, I hope things turn out alright.
 
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thanks dominoose, but are you sure bumping an appeal like this is allowed? was told off earlier when I last did it
 
thanks dominoose, but are you sure bumping an appeal like this is allowed? was told off earlier when I last did it
My advice is to not bump it constantly, but maybe like one or two weeks apart from each bump should be okay, unless someone says otherwise. I don’t make the rules but this is just my suggestion.
 
1) Using Alternate Accounts to Avoid punishments is a ban.

2) If your brother was banned, then it would seem fair. But the fact is the staff here have no idea if it was your brother or you are just lying. We aren't able to distinguish between them and the likely response you will get is not an unban. It is just very difficult to know for sure. If we just allowed alternate accounts of people who say "my brothers account is banned" we would have to let a whole host of people through who are just straight lying. You may just have to wait it out.

Im sorry if you are telling the truth I know it sucks but you will just have to be careful your brother doesn't get a ban whilst you wish to play with that IP.
 
We're aware that using alt accounts to avoid punishment causes a ban, and that's what's ridiculous about this whole thing. I get banned for suspected hacking, then unbanned after proving that I'm not hacking. I got banned again because my brother tried to connect to the server after my original ban because he got banned. I uploaded two videos, one is my brother's medic gameplay and another is a video i used for my previous ban appeal- my brother was the medic healing me in that video. This is proof that we are two separate people and those videos show that we were both on the server active at the same time. Hopefully that is enough to clear the common lie that "my brother did it" because my brother is actually a separate player who took part of this current ban that we are facing right now.
 
idk what you clowns are doing Gameserver admins, I'll just handle it myself then >:c
Verified that it's two people and not one via discord. Both bans have a comment to indicate it's NOT the same person, both bans have also been marked invalid.

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