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BaronVonGamerz

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Hey,
I started playing on the VSH server in 2015 and I took a 2 year break.
I came back this month and stumpled upon something really dissapointing...
Because of the recent updates by valve, the atomizer has been slightly reworked, and I cannot enjoy the winger + atomizer combo as much as I did before... As you guys may know, you must equipt the atomizer so that you can perform a triple jump as scout now, and that now you arn't able to equipt the winger and perform a triple jump, but u have to equipt the atmomizer to do so.

Is it possible to revert how it used to work back then, so that we can perform the triple jump when we have the winger equipt instead of having to switch to the atomizer?

Thank you! :3:
 
If it can be done by someone in this community I'd vote yes. Also the sandman could use a buff, either by reverting it back to its pre-update state as well, or, since I do like the fact that Sandman can no longer prevent Hale from being goomba'd, an increase in the amount of slow it applies. Right now it is very inconsequential.
 
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Totally agree. I miss being able to triple jump with scout (Although you still can, but you have to equip it) which is annoying and hard.
 
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To be honest you are able to goomba hale with ease without the atomizer, just with the winger (and Force a Nature if you like). However yeah it is much more fun with the old combo. Would be good just to put it back to pre-update.
As for the sandman, it honestly needs something done with it. Putting it back to how it was in the last update would be amazing because it is legit pure and utter shit right now (and I know a few people that are really sad about it lmao) or at least give it a buff like Evo said.
 
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The Sandman Is Legit utter Useless. Its Stats of been Changed up By Valve Because of people complaining to Hate being Stripped of their weapons in the Stun But they Yet have realize, its the Reward they get when they are to be stunned. Everyone hates to be stunned, But this is Like saying "That gun shoots bullets to fast, please make it shoot like a rocket launcher". The Stats Did not need a Change And for you need to Bring the Pre-Update back. You Take your Time to Risk Pulling Out the sandman to RECEIVE your reward, when you Chosen a Ball over Bullets. ("Basically Stun-Projectile Over a Shotgun") And With The Atomizer Yes. Please do bring it back to its Precious form. In Order to do a Triple Jump you have to Have it Armed/Equipped Now. Many hate this because you Have to Put up your gun to do this Certain Action. It's the Fact Every Second Counts in Battle. Many Use this In Mid air and you have to time it just right. I am one who have used the Atomizer + Winger And it has been Very assistant And Live -Saving. No One wants to spend time Deploying a Weapon only to use one of its Harmless Stats.
 
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Pichu said:
The Sandman Is Legit utter Useless. Its Stats of been Changed up By Valve Because of people complaining to Hate being Stripped of their weapons in the Stun But they Yet have realize, its the Reward they get when they are to be stunned. Everyone hates to be stunned, But this is Like saying "That gun shoots bullets to fast, please make it shoot like a rocket launcher". The Stats Did not need a Change And for you need to Bring the Pre-Update back. You Take your Time to Risk Pulling Out the sandman to RECEIVE your reward, when you Chosen a Ball over Bullets. ("Basically Stun-Projectile Over a Shotgun") And With The Atomizer Yes. Please do bring it back to its Precious form. In Order to do a Triple Jump you have to Have it Armed/Equipped Now. Many hate this because you Have to Put up your gun to do this Certain Action. It's the Fact Every Second Counts in Battle. Many Use this In Mid air and you have to time it just right. I am one who have used the Atomizer + Winger And it has been Very assistant And Live -Saving. No One wants to spend time Deploying a Weapon only to use one of its Harmless Stats.
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Sandman is a lot more balanced and fair to fight now. I honestly hated the stun effect (the damm cleavers) and the slow was a pretty neat idea. slow helps you get away so you DONT have to jump over the boss with atomizer (even though you cant have both.) I am for keeping them the same, there are reasons why valve nerfed scout, its because he could do way too much with so little
 
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@Natsume Kitsune @BaronVonGamerz you know why the atomizer was nerfed?
this video by lazy purple explains it when he talks about movement. Basically atomizer was too unpredictable for what valve wanted (same with base jumper) and it makes sense in vsh/ff2 too
 
Yes sandman was, the stun long range was just insane, and with cleaver, it was an death no matter what to half of the classes
 
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Yes sandman was, the stun long range was just insane, and with cleaver, it was an death no matter what to half of the classes
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You had to hit a long range stun, It's far easier to say then to do, and then had to throw the clever with it's arc that same distance and also throw it expecting where the guy will move. It required skill to do unlike the atomizer where you equip it and bam, extra jumps that trade 10 HP for not getting hit and losing more HP otherwise.

If you think a 2 shot kill is Bullshit, then I hate to break it to ya Goose, but Scout doesn't need to switch off his Primary to do that.
 
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You had to hit a long range stun, It's far easier to say then to do, and then had to throw the clever with it's arc that same distance and also throw it expecting where the guy will move. It required skill to do unlike the atomizer where you equip it and bam, extra jumps that trade 10 HP for not getting hit and losing more HP otherwise.

If you think a 2 shot kill is Bullshit, then I hate to break it to ya Goose, but Scout doesn't need to switch off his Primary to do that.
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that is true, but besides normal game play, I'm still against the atomizer being switched back. It gave scouts way to much mobility (and if you did soda popper, winger and atomizer, you got ridiculous jump height (which he doesn't need).
 
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